Here is another Kepi, opinions?
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SS man wearing kepi
Now before someone comments on construction, here is an SS mann wearing the exact type of kepi. The chinstrap has a similiar construction to the picture and the ones Ive seen that are original. The button is small just like the picture. -
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The leather band not being dried out? Is the only thing I can find potentially wrong.Comment
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interessant, aber....
This piece is wrapped more tightly in an enigma. Do you have images of the pins or whatever on the interior which hold the chin strap? Further, Derek Chapman can tell us whether this Dresden maker had this RZM #. For myself, I am put off by a cap with such an RZM # on the Muetzenboden and devoid of an RZM tag. That is,I have never seen the RZM # incorporated this way. The RZM tag is the proper place for this feature, although the firms also did include their RZM Zulassungsnummer in their print advertisements. However, if this is a fake, it is a well made one, with more skill and cunning than the normal piece. The pictures are incomplete, in that a crucial criterion here is the feel of the fabric in the cap, as well. The brown cotton water proof cloth is faked, which makes this kind of thing more problematic. I cannot tell wholly from the images. Colleagues Coleman, Wood, Lumsden, Hritz, Hassler and Chapman can offer sound opinions here. Gary Wood posted an image of a very modest, but very real kepi. The odds steepen against a piece of this kind, especially when it is seems brand new. In most cases, especially these caps show their age. Jenkins in the UK had one for sale recently, if anyone saved his images.Last edited by Donald Abenheim; 05-19-2006, 07:37 PM.Comment
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The A/1 715 is correct for Richter of Dresden. I too would love to see the way the buttons are affixed.
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Dear Colleague, you know better than the rest of this score, because this is your metier. Have you seen the RZM # rendered this way in the lining with the logo before? Colleague Coleman also owns many fine SA and other Shaftmuetzen. Perhaps he has some input on this score. I always learn something new, surely. I also guess that close ups of the ventilation grommets are in order, as well. Andrew Mollo and I had a long correspondence about this kind of thing in the summer of 1971, at a time when a very cunning faker here in no. California was churning out very skillful fakes of Shaftmuetzen, brown and black....Originally posted by derekComment
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I have seen an early black SS peaked cap with an inscription in the lining that indicated that it was made under the auspices of the RZM but I can't say that I can remember seeing one with the number like this.
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Dear Colleague, thanks. Perhaps our friend in Virginia will garner some more images. Viel Sammlerglueck. The other piece of course is that the RZM nomenclature of licenses changed in early-1935. That is, the prefixes differed in the earliest period from the system with which we are most familiar and employed in this piece. See CR Davis and Thomas Reid on this score. We are most familiar with the categories of metal items, but did this reformed nomenclature (earlier: Metallabzeichen, i.e. MA, then, M1/x) not also apply to textiles, equipment, manufactured or tailored items? Thus, what was A1 or A2 called prior to this 1935 reform? Also, a cap of this kind of 1935 make (such is possible according to the lists....) would surely have had an RZM tag if this A1 nomenclature was in use. The Shaftmuetze was worn into 1935, to be sure, but in decreasing numbers as the full black uniform became the norm. Colleague Chapman's image of this kind of thing with the later 1934 style Totenkopf is a very precious image.Originally posted by derekLast edited by Donald Abenheim; 05-20-2006, 06:30 PM.Comment
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I like the look of that kepi.Comment
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I also like its general appearrance..could the tag have been pulled if there ever was one??Billbert
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