Question on S.S. General's Collar tabs

[Robert H]

There are for sure variations regarding handembroidered cloth insignias. Templates where used but not for all the embroidered details like the acorns etc. These days also the templates are getting faked, but they look different from the original ones. You like it or not it is up to the buyer but there are damm good faked insignias out. Here is an example how I like it and I don't make any exeptions for such items who reached already the top price class.

[Bob Hritz]

Those pairs and singles that I have owned all had the more blunt stems. In the last 10 years, there appeared a quantity of pairs (never singles?????) with the pointed stems.

If I were to seek additional SS general's collar tabs for my collection, I would NOT look for the types with pointed stems. Of course, the proper F code RZM paper tag would also be most important to me.

I would have to concur with Bob Wirtz on his assessment.

Bob Hritz

[Fritz]

I believe these are two nice examples to show what Peter is talking about:

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Waffe...os/S29753.html

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Waffe...os/S08753.html

Just compair them with the "pointed tabs" and you will see the difference...yes, just the "difference" not saying that the ones there are good and the others aren't...everyone should decide for themself....

Cheers

Fritz

[Howard Kelley]

I believe these are two nice examples to show what Peter is talking about:

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Waffe...os/S29753.html

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Waffe...os/S08753.html

Just compair them with the "pointed tabs" and you will see the difference...yes, just the "difference" not saying that the ones there are good and the others aren't...everyone should decide for themself....

Cheers

Fritz

Hi Fritz,

Yes, the tabs on Peter Whamond's site, The Collector's Guild do appear to be correct examples. Just what I'd like to see. Using the information have learned from this thread! What's everyone else have to say? Have I learned anything? Or should I rephrase, have I learned how to determine good from not so good?

Try not to confuse the Peter's! I'm already on overload with this thread.

Peter Whamond.....The Collector's Guild.

Peter von Lukas.......(Peter excuse me if I misspelled your name) I also forgot what was the name of your website. (sorry).

Thanks for the input Fritz!

Cheers,
Howard

[Fritz]

Try not to confuse the Peter's! I'm already on overload with this thread.

Peter Whamond.....The Collector's Guild.

Peter von Lukas.......(Peter excuse me if I misspelled your name) I also forgot what was the name of your website. (sorry).

I meant Peter von Lukacs ( www.ww-2militaria.com ) ... not Peter Whamond ( www.germanmilitaria.com ), though the pics of the tabs are on Peter Whamond's site.

Cheers

Fritz

[Robert H]

Here you go Howard, http://www.ww-2militaria.com/

it is a never ending learning & study process and this our glory hobby

[Howard Kelley]

Here you go Howard, http://www.ww-2militaria.com/

it is a never ending learning & study process and this our glory hobby

Robert,

You made the truest statement of the day!

One small problem, I don't think I ever found the beginning?

Maybe that's the reason it never ends?

Cheers,
Howard

[Howard Kelley]

I meant Peter von Lukacs ( www.ww-2militaria.com ) ... not Peter Whamond ( www.germanmilitaria.com ), though the pics of the tabs are on Peter Whamond's site.

Cheers

Fritz

Thanks Fritz!

The caffeine hasn't kicked me into gear yet!

Thank you for providing the correct information. Just want everyone to get proper fame and fortune.

Robert, thanks to you! For also providing the information.

Have a good day everyone!

Howard

[Fritz]

No Problem!

You too!

Cheers

Fritz

[GFM]

Nice to see Bob Hritz stepping in to share his wealth of knowledge!

In regards to the pointy stems, in looking back a page where Peter made a comparison between the Schumacher and Gottleib tabs; the Schumacher tabs are textbook examples and really only have a slight 'pointy-ness' to one of the stems on the right tab.....not at all like the overly exaggerated curved points to all of the stems on the Gottleib tabs.

By the way, that was an interesting 'point' Bob brought up about these pointy stem tabs showing up only in pairs, though I have a feeling we will now start to see singles.

[Peter v L]

Those pairs and singles that I have owned all had the more blunt stems. In the last 10 years, there appeared a quantity of pairs (never singles?????) with the pointed stems.

If I were to seek additional SS general's collar tabs for my collection, I would NOT look for the types with pointed stems. Of course, the proper F code RZM paper tag would also be most important to me.

I would have to concur with Bob Wirtz on his assessment.

Bob Hritz

Bob, thanks for that info!

Peter v L

[Howard Kelley]

What are these worth on today market?

I'm considering selling these tabs. As singles. Or together.

I understand I will not be able to fetch a price like the "big" dealers........

But would really like to know what these are worth?

Or what might be the top dollar, quick sale price?

Regards,
Howard

[CurtD]

Nice to see Bob Hritz stepping in to share his wealth of knowledge!

In regards to the pointy stems, in looking back a page where Peter made a comparison between the Schumacher and Gottleib tabs; the Schumacher tabs are textbook examples and really only have a slight 'pointy-ness' to one of the stems on the right tab.....not at all like the overly exaggerated curved points to all of the stems on the Gottleib tabs.

By the way, that was an interesting 'point' Bob brought up about these pointy stem tabs showing up only in pairs, though I have a feeling we will now start to see singles.

I am somewhat confused here. To my eyes, the Schumacher tabs have the most pointed stems of any tabs in this thread. Does everyone consider these original? I can see where the CG tabs' stems come to a point in the center as opposed to the edge.

And I am not at all sure what a "curved point" is.
Here are the Schumacher tabs again:

[Bobwirtz]

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[GFM]

I might add that I believe McLure is also the collector who obtained GFM von Manstein's full uniform and overcoat directly from the Generalfeldmarschall, another well documented grouping.