Comments on the LW tunic

[Wartime Collectables]

This just came in with a small collection of items and I have some questions for those more knowledgeable (that would be just about anyone viewing this thread!). Any other informative comments are certainly welcomed!
The eagle and specialty patch are cotton thread machine sewn but the rank cheverons cotton thread hand sewn. Correct for this piece or possibly added?
What is the paper lable?
The paper lable made me assume this is unissued? But would it come with the cuff patch that way?
THANkS!

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[DonC]

It doesn't look like any LW tunic I have seen, and the paper tag doesn't jive with the EKII ribbon. The chevrons and trade patch look to be for a tropical uniform. The straps are also... intriguing... I suspect somebody dolled this one up.

Don

[Adam S.]

Garbage top to bottom.

[Wartime Collectables]

OK, I respect the opinions and have no problem with trashing the coat. But is there any chance anyone could provide any actual information and not just ? I collect and am 'comfortable' with US material. When I buy German it's vet and I don't worry about it or it comes in a collection and I turn to those more knowledgeable for advice. I would very much like to post more uncertain items from this last collection as well!
I don't know what the paper lable is so don't know if it matches the EK. What is the lable?
Is the coat post war altered, wartime with LW insignia added, recent copy?
The eagle sure looked good to me but assume "top to bottom" means the eagle is fake too. I've never seen the cuff insignia so didn't have an opinion on it but assuming as with the eagle it is fake too and so is the EK ribbon.

[kaiserwilhelm2]

Unissued/unworn tunics can have paper labels, worn tunics not. A tunic that sports an EK ribbon is not unworn. So combi label and ribbon is a nono.

[NickG]

It's an odd example...the chest pockets appear to have internal pleats... also not text book but still possible if it had been a tailored LW piece (customer preference), however this one is a government contracted one based on the stamps... so the cut/style should have been standard per LW regs....
The paper tag does match the ink stamp so its original to the tunic making it indeed an unissued one (with later added breast+ribbon+sleeve insignia).
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Upon closer examination the paper tag reads "Pol"...(training Regiment?) That leads me to the following conclusion:
I believe its an early post-war West German Polizei tunic! Berlin cops wore that color and the tag shows a Berlin maker!

Here's another one from an old ebay auction offered as an attic find Luftwaffe...
(same cut but its in blue summer cotton cloth) = Berlin Police...
Note same style chest pocket pleats and same skirt pockets! Other than the cuffs its identical! Post war Berlin Cop!

[Wartime Collectables]

Interesting! Thanks all! OK, so the chevron, ribbon, and cuff insignia come off but are real? The coat then is either unissued wartime or post war. I had come to the same conclusion on the tag vs EK ribbon but wondered if the tag had a significance. Nothing in the paper tag or stamps date it? REALLY appreciate the insights gents.

[NickG]

Interesting! Thanks all! OK, so the chevron, ribbon, and cuff insignia come off but are real? The coat then is either unissued wartime or post war. I had come to the same conclusion on the tag vs EK ribbon but wondered if the tag had a significance. Nothing in the paper tag or stamps date it? REALLY appreciate the insights gents.

Its post war! No doubts now based on tag info (Pol) ! Insignia has some value!

Here's another one (in EXACT same style, but cut in summer cloth)

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...lice+luftwaffe



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[DonC]

Definitely not a wartime tunic. Andrew, if you can post better pics of the insignia some of the insignia gurus can help you out with authenticity. My eyes may be playing tricks on me, but are the cuffs made of a different material than the rest of the tunic?

Don

[Wartime Collectables]

Thanks guys, this has been of great help! Chalk this one up to 'tuition'!

[Adam S.]

Don't worry - I bought one about as bad as I was just starting out.