I would have to see this in a period photo to believe it (on Oakleaf)...
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Fortunately the rusty buckle didn't leave any stains on the fabric ..
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I'd like to see what's underneath the "slider" portions of the buckles when you lift them away from the fabric, and also what's inside the fabric "tunnels". Looks like surface loss of plating followed by only small areas of actual rust, which might not be as damaging to surrounding areas as might be anticipated.
I've never seen one like this before, and I'm somewhat suspicious, but I have to say that it is very well-made. I'll try to find something on Egon Rall when I get home from work tonight.Comment
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Strange one. I'm awaiting pics of the interior. Apparently it has both LW size tag and size stamps, which doesn't make much sense to me, unless it's retailored from an issued garment.Comment
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Notice that the sleeves have what appear to be false cuffs.Originally posted by J. Hahn View PostComment
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Agree, this is not a luftwaffe jacket, unless retailored, jacket has issues IMO ..Originally posted by J. Hahn View Post
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I hope Kris posts wartime pics of Egon Rall wearing this jacket; on a side note has anyone heard of this pilot before? Egon Mayer and Gunther Rall yes, but Egon Rall?WAF LIFE COACHComment
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Intriguing jacket for only 12K - a bargain
. Yes let us find Herr Rall and also any pics of this type of jacket in period photo's.
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I've never heard of Egon Rall, either, and I'm not quite sure how Kris is getting JG 27 from the writing on the earcup of the flight helmet. I've got their unit history at home and will check it tonight for any reference to Rall. While I would have little doubt that fighter pilots could, and did, come up with some unique clothing (and that LW cloth flight jackets can be a unique world - just look at the evolution of the "Great White" to the standard blue cloth jacket), this one needs more information.Comment
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Hello, cloth O2 attachment straps? A photo in wear would be the only way I would believe in something like this. Best, BillComment
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I assume the pilot badge is a cloth type with the background removed?Comment
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OK.....
No Egon Rall shows up as having been awarded the RK, DK or Ehrenpokal (means nothing, of course, as most did not).
No Egon Rall is listed as ever having been a pilot, or serving in any capacity, with JG 27.
No Egon Rall shows up in the abbreviated Luftwaffenrangliste I have, nor have I found him (so far) in the much longer list compiled postwar by the German government for pension purposes. I will keep looking, but am not holding my breath.
In all the photos contained in books I have on JG 27, Marseille, etc., I find no photos of any flight jacket resembling this piece.Comment
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The only other Rall I could find was Heinz, a Me-262 pilot.Comment
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Originally posted by Leroy View Post
Now...does anyone think that is decisive in judging this jacket? I hope not.Comment
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No pics of the tags, stamps, inside jacket etc.., for 12K one would expect a little more details and documentation ..
Looks like the whole jacket was made of something like a coverall or trench coat something, the bulky way how it is folded back inside at the bottom in the buckle area and the extra strip of fabric over the zipper at only one side are indications IMO.
... and like Bill says, cloth O2 attachment straps, very unusual.
If it has tags, then the tags are certainly not for the jacket in this configuration, LBA would've rejected a jacket like this, because it was not made by their rules.
Looks like the collar has some holes in the neck ( from wearing ? )
The zipp pull looks rather untouched though.
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