WH jacket ID

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

Picked up this yesterday, not sure if the insignia are original to the jacket but would like to know what's the unit stamp inside.

Thank you

Giorgio

[ITALIANWARFRONT]

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[Adam S.]

Can't make out all of the numerals in the interior stamp.

[RobertE]

What a great tunic. Jaeger Regiment markings, and nice officers' collar added to an otherwise issue M36. Interesting they didn't add cuffs, but probably cut in a dagger slit.

Congratulations on a real nice combat tunic!

regards, Robert

[pauke]

marking

What appears to be a "J" is an "I", so its an infantry regt. marking.

[RobertE]

Could be, but I don't think so - German "I"s and "J"s on unit markings look like their US counterparts.

It is obviously set up like an infantry officer, and doesn't have green piping, but the question dealt with the markings. The new owner acknowledged the insignia may be replacement.

The combat modified officer tunics are really attractive IMO, and this one looks like a large size. Refreshing to see one that has not been tricked out with DGiG loops and other nonsense.

regards, Robert

[RobertE]

Maybe a transfer from a Jaeger outfit to the infantry - a fairly common branch jump. All Jaeger tunics don't have to look like this!

For instance, he could have started out in Jaeger Regiment 75, like this officer, and then been transferred to Infantry Regiment 110. Pure speculation, mind you.

[Glenn McInnes]

What appears to be a "J" is an "I", so its an infantry regt. marking.

Agree Infantry,



Nice looking jacket.







Glenn

[RobertE]

Yes, the insignia is certainly for Infantry Regiment 110.

But to get back to the markings in question:

- J.R. = Jaeger Regiment

- I.R. = Infantry Regiment

This tunic is marked J.R. with an indistinct regimental number. I've attached pictures from a single tunic owner by a forum member, that bears both infantry (I.R.) and Jaeger (J.R.) markings in the same tunic.

Some Jaeger regiments were attached to infantry divisions, and had various branch markings. Since he is trying to identify the unit markings inside the tunic, the examples below may help.

regards, Robert

[pauke]

Jnfantry

Jn traditional German military markings ( Kaiserreich through III. Reich) the "I" used has the bend to the left at the bottom as in the tunic markings under discussion. The "I" is used in markings as a Roman numeral for example II./ JR 58 for second bataillon. J.R. means Jnfanterie Regiment.

[OSS]

I suspect you are correct.

[RobertE]

I don't believe this is accurate in the case of the tunic we are discussing. Please look at the photos above, both taken from the same tunic.

The tunic is marked I.R. 17, not J.R. 17, and this marking is for Infantry Regiment 17, subordinate to the 31st Infantry Division. It does not start with a "J".

In the same tunic appears the unit stamp for Jaeger Regiment 15, and it is marked J.R.15. It does not start with a "I", like the infantry designation, but with a "J", for Jaeger.

Again, these stamps are in the same tunic, so clearly the letters have a different unit meaning. We are discuss subordination, but the tunic photos above do show the use of "J" and "I" - they are not the same.

regards, Robert

[RobertE]

I think I'm wrong, and sorry for muddying the waters. Looking hard at the markings, it looks like it could very likely be a "110" following the initials - at least it's three digits.

It would match an infantry regiment, which would definately confirm that this used the lettering protocol described by Pauke.

So - I'm in complete agreement: I.R. 110 it is! And a great tunic!

regards, Robert

[siton12]

very enlighting thread mates.If I may ask,what sort of initial was used in case of a Jaeger Regiment?