bullion eagle opinions...

[tinmantis]

I've always regarded this eagle as genuine. and if I can remember right, I've posted it here in the distant past, and you all agreed.
A friend dropped by with a black light and.....
the mesh backing glows real bright! I know some pre-1945 fabrics do, but is this one of them? From 60 eagles, this was the only 'glower'.
Any thoughts would be helpful
regards
jon

[tinmantis]

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[tinmantis]

No blacklight-fabrics-specialists out there?
regards
jon

[Erich B.]

glow

Does it glow bright neon blue, or medium green? If you lay it down on a white T-shirt, which should glow brightly, and it glows as brightly, there may be a problem. If it glows less brightly, it may be okay.
That being said, the 1960's fakes did not look like this.
Erich

[tinmantis]

Does it glow bright neon blue, or medium green? If you lay it down on a white T-shirt, which should glow brightly, and it glows as brightly, there may be a problem. If it glows less brightly, it may be okay.
That being said, the 1960's fakes did not look like this.
Erich

It glowed bright, but not like a t-shirt, I can't remember green or blue though. I'll be able to do it again later this week...
regards
jon

[Langemark]

I've always regarded this eagle as genuine. ...A friend dropped by with a black light and.....jon

Jon, just keep regarding this (sorry, very damaged and common) officer's eagle as absolutely genuine and, please, stop considering the black light test as the 'ultimate proof' of good or bad.

Mark

[tinmantis]

Jon, just keep regarding this (sorry, very damaged and common) officer's eagle as absolutely genuine and, please, stop considering the black light test as the 'ultimate proof' of good or bad.

Mark

Oh no, I don't consider it the ultimate test, I was just surprised that on my first ever use of it, this one eagle shone out like a star! and wondered why this was. This means the fabric is in some way synthetic, yes? or has been washed with synthetic cleaning agent?
I realise some pre-1945 fabrics glow, and are considered as such...
All very interesting to someone who was gazing out the windows in Science lessons.
regards
jon

[Glenn McInnes]

Jon, just keep regarding this (sorry, very damaged and common) officer's eagle as absolutely genuine and, please, stop considering the black light test as the 'ultimate proof' of good or bad.

Mark

I agree!!! Its a good one Glenn

[Langemark]

Hi Jon,

As I was reading again my previous reply, I imagined that I might have offended you with my words “very damaged and common officer’s eagle” that I used then. In fact, I only wanted to point out that original officer’s hand embroidered eagles could still be found in better condition and at reasonable prices. It certainly wasn’t my intention to devalue your example. By the way, your eagle can be considered as a higher quality manufacture piece because the chest area has been padded in order to give it a higher relief.

As you said, your eagle has possibly been cleaned with modern washing products that impregnated the ‘Unterlagen’ (cardboard template) and the threads, and thus making the whole item fluorescent. This fluorescing problem often happens with, for example, original cotton shirts or white summer uniforms that were cleaned with modern cleaning products.

Best,
Mark

[tinmantis]

Hi Jon,

As I was reading again my previous reply, I imagined that I might have offended you with my words “very damaged and common officer’s eagle” that I used then. In fact, I only wanted to point out that original officer’s hand embroidered eagles could still be found in better condition and at reasonable prices. It certainly wasn’t my intention to devalue your example. By the way, your eagle can be considered as a higher quality manufacture piece because the chest area has been padded in order to give it a higher relief.

As you said, your eagle has possibly been cleaned with modern washing products that impregnated the ‘Unterlagen’ (cardboard template) and the threads, and thus making the whole item fluorescent. This fluorescing problem often happens with, for example, original cotton shirts or white summer uniforms that were cleaned with modern cleaning products.

Best,
Mark

It takes more than that to offend me! I'm quite 'common and damaged' myself And I agree totally. I'm interested in all views expressed, such is the beauty of a public forum...
I have even worse examples of eagles, and much better ones too, I enjoy them all. I'm not a 'mint' kinda guy, and on my budget, it works out well! I see these eagles as soldiers, stories and history...
regards
jon

[Langemark]

I'm quite 'common and damaged' myself regards
jon

Cool reply, Jon ! Yes, I also think we're all somewhat "damaged" to collect that old stuff !
Mark