Heer gabardine wrap discussion

[Johnny R]

The Italian material has an unfinished texture in the interior surface-

[Schulterklappen]

Gabardine material

The Italian material has an unfinished texture in the interior surface-

Hi Johnny,

The material of my strap is similar. Here is a closeup.

[Richard P]

No sir, my intent was NOT to single you out (as was not the case with Mr. Gibson); I copied your statement as it concerned the misnomer of tailors and their application of insignia as it relates to this example. My apologies to you if it looked that way.
Please note post numbers 32, 33 and 41.
B. N. Singer

Bryon,

My sincere apologies for taking your post the wrong way. No apology necessary because of my misunderstanding.

Johnny,

I have seen the markings several times. I have seen plenty of stuff that did not appear factory made, that had markings. I have seen and had tailored items that had your typical size markings, and none. The markings in this also seem completely amateur to me, which backed up my production thoughts. I could make better markings with a dime store stamp set, and some that made sense. There are extra numbers, dual chest sizes, illegible something that you say is an RBNR number on the pocket, etc. Anybody with stamps and ink can do it, and I have never seen a factory stamp job like this. All that said, it was only an opinion and I could be 100% wrong.

I am 100% behind this wrap and that was all I felt important to get across. My opinion about factory versus non-factory has no bearing on originality. I have seen better made fake gabardine wraps with gorgeous markings...but they remain fake, and this one remains real...but once again, my opinion, to be taken or rejected.

respectfully and apologetically,

Richard

[JuanS]

Wow

This is an exciting thread. Mike, thanks for taking the time to teach us about the collar patches application. Awesome tunic

Juan

[Glenn McInnes]

They look like good depot stamps to me (RB# below the size/depot markings)..Here is another example with a crossed out chest size marking (a mistake by the person marking it) and then re-stamped accordingly. This factory produced jacket was not retailored.


I happen to like these "human error" details. The two 3 digit numbers at the top are of course the wearers approx height.






Glenn

[Johnny R]

I agree with Glenn, I have seen Military sizes used in prefabricated private purchase tunics etc. but never depot stamps or Rbns. I can see the upper arm of the "R" and the lower part of the "N", the first "0" the back slash etc, the stamp was double struck and bled. IMO that is without question a Factory code.

[Richard P]

It looks like you guys are correct on this being a factory produced item. I knew the upper measurements were almost 6 feet, but it didn't even dawn on me that they were the approximate height...duh.

Thanks for the illustrated lessons Glenn and Johnny, I also don't believe this jacket was altered in any way from the day it was made. Thanks for your patience.

Richard

[B. N. Singer]

I agree with Glenn...I can see the upper arm of the "R" and the lower part of the "N", the first "0" the back slash etc, the stamp was double struck and bled. IMO that is without question a Factory code.

Referring to the example of this thread, it is likely that the manufacturer’s code would be more legible if one were to look at the inside of the pocked, were I believe the stamp was placed, as the picture posted actually shows the “bleed through” (of the, if I remember correctly, “RF Nr.”).

B. N. Singer

[Johnny R]

Referring to the example of this thread, it is likely that the manufacturer’s code would be more legible if one were to look at the inside of the pocked, were I believe the stamp was placed, as the picture posted actually shows the “bleed through” (of the, if I remember correctly, “RF Nr.”).

B. N. Singer

The slashs between the number sets are going in the opposite direction as they normally do so that makes sense.

[Richard P]

Bryon,

That makes perfect sense that we are seeing the characters in reverse, a thought that never crossed my mind either. No wonder I could not make heads or tales of the characters. Another lesson learned from this particular piece. Thanks,

Richard

[naxos]

<P>like this:</P>

[Johnny R]

Being dyslexic has some advantages

[naxos]

Being dyslexic has some advantages

Yep