Heer gabardine wrap discussion

[Mike Davis]

In another thread the subject of Heer wraps made from gabardine fabric was discussed. It was noted that this type is quite rare and a couple of known examples were mentioned.

It was stated that an example currently in my possession was rebadged. I disagree with this opinion and thought it might be interesting to explain my reasoning for my view. I would also appreciate other learned opinions as well!

The wrap in question:

[Mike Davis]

It was theorized that due to the still visible outlines of stitching on the collars that at one time, officer's tabs must have been sewn to the collar and then issue litzen tabs aplied at a later time. I think there is another explanation, plus I believe the shape and size wrong for indicating the former application of officer's tabs.

In my opinion, the current litzen tabs are factory sewn and the visible traces of previous stitching result from the original application of 'Russia braid' which would have been applied in the shape of a parallelogram around the litzen - as is still the case in these '44 dated examples:

[Mike Davis]

In this comparison, collar tops and bottoms show traces of the former Russia braid application. Note the circled area which is where the ends of the Russia braid were joined and poked through the collar.

[Mike Davis]

Same for the other side of the collar. Other than the circle where the ends of the Russia braid were poked through, I did not mark these photos. To my eye, the traces of the previously applied braid are clear.

[Mike Davis]

Now compare a factory application in which the braid is still in place around the litzen.

[Mike Davis]

In both shots it can clearly be seen where the Russia braid is inserted through the top of the collar to be secured on the underside.

[Mike Davis]

The hole for the braid and traces of previous stitching can be seen more clearly in this photo.

[Mike Davis]

And in my opinion, the litzen tab stitching is entirely consistent with what I would expect to see in an original application.

[nonameno]

Hello Gentlemen,
I am of like mind with Mike on this wrapper. I think he clearly points out the valid reasons for there having been russia braid sewn on around the tabs at one point in time. The application and wear of the enlisted collar tabs is also consistent with this theory. I think what really sells me is the spot where the russia braid would have been inserted into the collar. If there were officer collar tabs on the collar at one time, there would be no reason for these holes.
In my opinion, this is a wonderful example of a very rare tunic indeed. Now we can start with the theories of what color russia braid was there, and to what service arm did the soldier change, requiring the removal of the waffenfarbe?
Thank you for sharing this tunic with us,
Curtiss

[Mike Davis]

On the subject of the national emblem application I am much less certain - it is certainly unsual.

I have seen 'raw edged' eagles originally sewn before but I do not remember seeing such wide spacing between the individual machine stitches.

It does not appear that the stitching was done by hand to simulate machine sewing. So if replaced, how?

[Mike Davis]

Another view. I am unable to see traces of previous insignia in this area.

[Mike Davis]

So, if the national emblem has been reapplied at some point, how was this done?

Since the stitching does not go through the lining, I would think that some portion of the lining would have had to have been opened to avoid doing this were the eagle re-sewn.

I have carefully examined and can find no trace of the lining having ever been undone.

This shot is of the lining where it joins the front closure panel. The stitching that holds this lining is hidden and would have to be reattached from the inside if re-done:

[Mike Davis]

This photo is of the lining where it attaches at the armpit. Again, no sign of molestation:

[Mike Davis]

The only other possibility I can think of would be opening the lapel istelf in order to insert a sewing machine arm, but, here again, the sewing does not appear to have been disturbed. This photo shows the outer edge of the inner lapel closest to the national emblem:

[Mike Davis]

I know there is quite a bit of innovative tailoring going on these days - and I have certainly made more than my fair share of mistakes.

So what about this example? Original? Reapplied? Both?

I'd greatly welcome other opinions.