Some misc. Panzer stuff for review

[John Macrini]

Nick,
I really appreciate you helping out.... I'll go on ahead and divulge what I paid Provided that I can get an opinion or two of what they are estimated to be worth. The only reason I am ok with revealing what i paid is because I'm not gonna sell em.... I very rarely sell, I hate getting rid of stuff, I've been called a pack rat once or twice I get that from my father

The skulls have been on this tab for quite a while, because... The prong that I have pointed out was barely sticking up, And i mean Barely. and I being the dumba** that i am pushed it down, it was extremely stiff, I mean solid. well as soon as it decided to give it did just that... I broke it! (lesson learned.. never ever ever gonna do that again...) but its still there. My point is that these were put on decades ago, the metal is extremely stiff and very brittle



Now to the financial part..


I paid....

200$ USD for the tabs, boards, and the buttons.

120$ USD for the Luft eagle, SA tab, and the skull.

What do ya think?

[John Macrini]

Found the tabs with skulls in wear...

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=258751

and.. take a look at post # 120

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ion+tab&page=8

[NickG]

Luftwaffe field division stug tabs

Yep LW field division sturmgeschutz collar tabs would fit the bill perfectly.
The period picture actually showed Heer rectangular tabs... (panzer tab shape)
as LW field divisions were supplied by Heer towards the end (under Heer control) the uniforms were often Heer issue like the stug wrapper in the photo example...

but the 2nd link with the LW field division examples is exactly what I had in mind! A match. An adoption of a LW feld division artillery tab for mechanized artillery or panzer jager use (Stug)!
Congrats!
Great price for great items...BUT no more bending!! Verboten!

[Richard P]

I'm not trying to reignite the field green vs blue gray wrap controversy. I think there is a strong chance that the wrap pictured may be Luftwaffe blue gray. I have seen enough examples now that I believe there is a strong likely hood that blue gray wraps were in fact used. I have seen an extremely convincing one in a very old collection. It had Heer style tabs, green with TK's and red piping on the tabs and boards and looked a lot like the one pictured. I think those tabs went with those boards and were not just pieced together in a hodge-podge of insignia.

Richard

[John Macrini]

Nick, thanks for the help.

Richard, thanks for the input, and I alsso believe that the boards and tabs were a set, like I said the boards, tabs, and buttons all came from the same source, they sat in an ammo tin for years and years until they found their way to me, which was a good thing, because it had a good seal on it. I believe that part of the reason that they look as good as they do. The colors and vivid and the material is in fantastic shape.

I searched for these items for quite a while, to get some kind of idea of their value, and found absolutely nothing. Do you guys have an opinion on their apporximate value?


Thanks,

John

[NickG]

I'm not trying to reignite the field green vs blue gray wrap controversy. I think there is a strong chance that the wrap pictured may be Luftwaffe blue gray. I have seen enough examples now that I believe there is a strong likely hood that blue gray wraps were in fact used. I have seen an extremely convincing one in a very old collection. It had Heer style tabs, green with TK's and red piping on the tabs and boards and looked a lot like the one pictured. I think those tabs went with those boards and were not just pieced together in a hodge-podge of insignia.

Richard

Hey lets reignite that!
Photo credit of LW stug crew: fellow WAF member and moderator Jack Melvin!
These are clearly squared LW shaped collar tabs, (just like the ones that started this thread) not rectangular Heer panzer types!
Note LW breast eagles!

[NickG]

Did it exist?

[NickG]

Not the red assault gunner waffen farbe, but white shown here... as its a HG wrapper...
no tabs... just skulls...

[galizien41]

Thanks Richard!
I did not want to post this since there are so many naysayers that it is not worth the defending of it but I think I will have to now.....
Stripped picture, and then with some insignia just laid on it. W-SS cut tunic.

I'm not trying to reignite the field green vs blue gray wrap controversy. I think there is a strong chance that the wrap pictured may be Luftwaffe blue gray. I have seen enough examples now that I believe there is a strong likely hood that blue gray wraps were in fact used. I have seen an extremely convincing one in a very old collection. It had Heer style tabs, green with TK's and red piping on the tabs and boards and looked a lot like the one pictured. I think those tabs went with those boards and were not just pieced together in a hodge-podge of insignia.

Richard

[galizien41]

with some insignia laid on it. you can see it is a darker blue wool, Italian ww2 airforce wool maybe...

[galizien41]

inside

[Richard P]

Jerry,

Maybe its safe to discuss hidden within this thread? I also had a stripped blue gray wrap that I borrowed from another collector that I could not find anything wrong with it. It did have some anomalies that I believe came from it being converted to civilian wear. After I saw this one recently, the one I borrowed was very similar and clearly showed where the anomalies came from.

Richard