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    What's this KM insignia?

    Hi All,
    I haven't seen this insignia before of 3 parallel bars (?light blue perhaps) on the right sleeve of a KM Matrose. Any idea what it means?
    It's on a posting by Steve in the Photos section:
    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...14&postcount=5
    Best regards,
    ---Norm

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    Norm, three red bars.

    These were used to identify the divisions of the starboard of the see men careers.

    1 - one bar, on the right sleeve 1st, on the letf 2nd
    2- two bars, on the right 3rd and on the left 4th
    3 - three bars, on the left 5th and on the left 6th

    Yours is 5th starboard division.
    Collector of Kriegsmarine and Küstenartillerie items

    Regards
    Eduardo


    Collecting Kriegsmarine !!!: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=725610

    sigpic "Deutsche Kriegsmarine"

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      #3
      clarification

      Originally posted by km-spain View Post
      Norm, three red bars.

      These were used to identify the divisions of the starboard of the see men careers.

      1 - one bar, on the right sleeve 1st, on the letf 2nd
      2- two bars, on the right 3rd and on the left 4th
      3 - three bars, on the right 5th and on the left 6th

      Yours is 5th starboard division.
      Thanks Eduardo. I'm not familiar with the term "starboard division" - is that referring to the divisions within the crew of a single ship and if so were they always divided into 6? What was the German name for starboard divisions?
      Best regards,
      ---Norm

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        #4
        Hello Norm

        Also to clarify, its just not starboard, also port watch.
        Only junior NCO's and EM were assigned to such watches.

        Steuerbordwache (starboard watch) wore the stripes on the right sleeve.
        Backbordwache (port watch) wore the stripes on the left sleeve.

        little table next :


        insignia StarBW PortW
        ------------------------------------------------

        1 stripe 1st division 2nd division
        2 stripes 3rd division 4th division
        3 stripes 5th division 6th division


        Also the usage of these stripes were on destroyer size vessels or larger.
        And only seamen career junior NCO and EM would have been these division watches.

        Hope this helps

        M.

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          #5
          Thanks

          Thanks very much Mark. Very interesting info.
          Best regards,
          ---Norm

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            #6
            Thanks a lot for the info on that Eduardo

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