M36 Straight Combat Trousers

[Tim DC]

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[Tim DC]

And last some details of the stitching.



Anyone else has an opinion on this?

[Tim DC]

PS - I did a blacklight test, which was OK

[hcliffe]

For what it is worth, I have a pair of M43 pants which are stone grey. I think your trousers are okay. Tim, send me an email, I have a question about them: hcliffe@sbcglobal.net

[Soldat de Fer]

Hello Tim,
Excuse my english... I made a mistake when I was writting...I wanted to mean that all the combat trousers I'v seen ( and I have in my collection), with stamp date "40" or over ("41" and "42" ) are feldgrau color. I even own a straight leg combat pants "M/39" dated, feldgrau color. So, for me a trousers "1940" dated should be feldgrau insted of the early steingrau color....I hope you understood my (basic) english this time.

Hello
The production did not stop in 1940 , the German never waisted anything and used up all their stock of wool ,before producing pants with the new wool.
Furthermore ,they were still available long after 1940 for use with the walkout tunic.
Regarding these pants ,They look good from these pictures ,do you have a shot showing underneath the watch pocket flap ( the bias material). Also the maker seem to be ( I forget his name ) Uniformfabrik Hannover. I have the same ones in mint condition ,but dated 1941.
Best Regards
Pierre-Yves

[Kamarad44]

Hello again Tim,
I have a better feeling about the trousers after the new pictures you posted (especialy the lining and reinforcement stitching that look correct).
About the color, it looks rather fieldgray than stonegray...No ?(but perhaps it's the flash light reflect...).
I agree with you Pierre-Yves, nothing was waisted in the german cloth industry ( that's why you have a stone gray color M43 trousers Harry, what is more recycled wool was also widely used for M43 pants and tunics).
What I didn't like about this trousers was not the color, but the lake of these typical reinforcement stitching details that couldn't be made out on the first pictures.
Chris

[Tim DC]

Thanks for the input guys.

Harry, I've sent you an email.

As for the color of the pants, I don't have any other pants to compare with but I've put it next to a Feldgrau M40 tunic to compare

[Tim DC]

And here's the area Jean-Pierre has asked for (well, at least I hope this is what he meant). Notice the white reinforcement on ehrm.. the vital parts.

[Kamarad44]

I think Pierre-Yves wanted to see a picture showing what is under the watch pocket flap ( if one can see the small piece of extra cloth for reinforcement).
Chris

[Kamarad44]

Oups ! the picture has been posted while I was writting !

[Tim DC]

( if one can see the small piece of extra cloth for reinforcement)

Ah, now I understand what Pierre-Yves wanted to see. My previous photo was zoomed out too much. I've made a detailed photo of how the watch pocket has been attached

[Tim DC]

So, could we conclude these are original M36 trousers?
Any other opinions?

[Gerard/Relic Hunter]

Tim,
Though the tan buttons look odd, the pants look OK. BUT, without seeing them in hand, it's hard to tell 100%.

Gerard

[Johnny R]

Buttons

Are the tan buttons plastic? Not a flag on the pants but they may have been added. I have never seen them before. The good thing is that most the fakes have the inncorrectly stamped metal buttons. Nothing wrong with the color, if you can find color photos of POWs at the end of the war they are wearing everything and every shade.

[Soldat de Fer]

Hello
The pants are original IMHO from these pictures I don't see anything wrong.
I believe the button made of horn ,they are not plastic. I one pair like these made in 1941 and in mint condition .
Best Regards
Pierre-Yves