Eagle over the "M" markings on Flags

[bbeck]

I think this topic of needs to be revisited. I truly feel we are missing something here. I have picked up many of Krieg's flags, State service flags over the years that have the Eagle M. These came from salty army U.S. veterans from towns deep inside of Germany with no Naval affiliations (one, in fact, that hung over a small town hall). I for one think that the Eagle over "M" stands for "Material" same basic spelling and meaning in German. I just find it hard to believe these are all navy flags.... Anyone else have other thoughts?
Thanks
Bruce

[oldflagswanted]

"M" flag marking ???

I think this topic of needs to be revisited. I truly feel we are missing
something here. I have picked up many of Krieg's flags, State service
flags over the years that have the Eagle M. These came from salty
army U.S. veterans from towns deep inside of Germany with no Naval
affiliations (one, in fact, that hung over a small town hall). I for one think
that the Eagle over "M" stands for "Material" same basic spelling and
meaning in German. I just find it hard to believe these are all navy flags....
Anyone else have other thoughts?
Thanks
Bruce

Hello Bruce:
On the WAF you can see posted examples of the
German Navy Imperial War Flag (IKF) with a crown
over "M" marking. After WW1 the Weimar eagle over
"M" markings was used, followed during the 3rd Reich
by the swastika eagle over "M" version. IMO these "M"
flag header markings certify that the flag was made to
special naval sea service use requirements - i.e., having
extra stitching to keep the flag together in higher wind.
Made to KM spec did not preclude other Wehrmacht use.
***OFW***
........

(below) Some 3rd Reich era flag header marking examples.

[MAUSER99]

WEll, I have seen identical kriegsbanners some with the e/m some without ?
Was this stamp added by a naval depot ? Possibly ?

[oldflagswanted]

when "M" applied ???

WEll, I have seen identical kriegsbanners some
with the e/m some without ? Was this stamp added
by a naval depot ? Possibly ?

Hello MAUSER99:
Interesting question. IMO the "M" stamp
was done at the flag factory, as noted by
the RKF photo example shown below. This
is IMO why this "M" stamp is a certification
rather than a Naval Depot inspection mark.
OFW

[CPB]

I think this topic of needs to be revisited. I truly feel we are missing something here. I have picked up many of Krieg's flags, State service flags over the years that have the Eagle M. These came from salty army U.S. veterans from towns deep inside of Germany with no Naval affiliations (one, in fact, that hung over a small town hall). I for one think that the Eagle over "M" stands for "Material" same basic spelling and meaning in German. I just find it hard to believe these are all navy flags.... Anyone else have other thoughts?
Thanks
Bruce

Bruce

Funny. I have a lead on a Fuhrer Standard with the exact quandary. This one more than likely came from Bavaria, yet it displays KM markings.

[oldflagswanted]

quandary resolved ???

...on a Fuhrer Standard with the exact quandary.
This one more than likely came from Bavaria, yet
it displays KM markings.

Hello CPB:
As already stated, IMO the "M" stamp was an OK
for sea use certification, rather than an applied
Naval Depot inspection mark. Made to KM spec did
not preclude other Wehrmacht unit or location use.
*OFW*

[CPB]

@OFW - have you ever compared and noticed a difference in manufacture/stitching between 'M' stamped and non-M stamped examples?

Your logic sounds totally reasonable to me.

[oldflagswanted]

flag observations ...

OFW - have you ever compared and noticed a difference in
manufacture/stitching between 'M' stamped and non-M
stamped examples? ...

CPB:
Yes, I've observed WW2 German flag examples as follows...
1. No "M" stamp, and no KM spec construction, -a, -b,-c, etc.
2. No "M" stamp, but with some KM spec construction, -b,-c.
3. No "M" stamp, but with KM spec construction (*) why?
4. Had "M" stamp, and no KM spec construction, -a,-b,-c, etc.
5. Had "M" stamp, and only some KM spec construction, -c.
6. Had "M" stamp, and with KM spec construction (*) normal
Note: (*)= a) Corner supports, b) edge stitching, c) thick rope.
*OFW*

[CPB]

Amazing, thank you.