Deutschland Erwache Banner

[oldflagswanted]

more repro DE banner examples ???

Here is another reproduction. $4-6K ???? [See post #60b for larger view]

d-h-f:
Same repro DE banner type that was in the Berlin DHM display.
These were sold at retail in the 1970's for around ~$200 USD.
Note back damage as heavy wire was stiff and didn't bend well.
OFW
(below) Another decades ago repro example, note font error.

[jules61]

Deutschland Erwache Eagle. 1935

Hi Ben!
What about these Pattern of Standarte Eagle?
These Eagle (that is hollow inside) have at the back on the spout for the flagpole, the maker's mark "Gahr Munich 1935".
How many of these Eagles was made by Gahr?
And.....In how many patterns?
Many thanks for yours knowledge!
Gian.

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about "mounted" (R) style DE tops ???

...What about these Pattern of Standarte Eagle?...
How many of these Eagles was made by Gahr?...
Gian.

Hello Gian:
I had a chance to buy one of the "mounted" (R)
style DE tops back in the 1970's for $2000 USD,
but I didn't as that was at the time 10 times the
price of unit flags of greater collecting interest.
There were at least 134 "mounted" (R) types, plus
a TBD count of SA-R & SS-R examples too - see DE
book for a list of those.
OFW
(below) As I previously posted on the WAF:
"716 DE presentations (from WAF t=252401), the
count includes also other than just across pole
DE hung types."
1923 4 SA *
1926 8 SA *
1927 12 SA *
1929 24 SA *
1931 24 SA *
1933 118 SA 8 SS *
1934 126 SA 75 SS *
1935 36 SS 40 SS 28 NSKK *
1936 25 SA 3 SS 35 NSKK *
1937 30 SA 1 SS 34 NSKK 1 Polizei *
1938 42 SS 14 SS 21 NSKK 16 NSFK *
1942 1 SA (Fritz Todt, reused Munich-II cloth - OFW type 1)
Totals are 449 SA, 141 SS, 118 NSKK(R), 1 Polizei, 16 NSFK(R).
(* according To Daten Der Geschichte Der NSDAP)

[kyles bullets]

Hello Gian:
I had a chance to buy one of the "mounted" (R)
style DE tops back in the 1970's for $2000 USD,
but I didn't as that was at the time 10 times the
price of unit flags of greater collecting interest.
There were at least 134 "mounted" (R) types, plus
a TBD count of SA-R & SS-R examples too - see DE
book for a list of those.
OFW
(below) As I previously posted on the WAF:
"716 DE presentations (from WAF t=252401), the
count includes also other than just across pole
DE hung types."
1923 4 SA *
1926 8 SA *
1927 12 SA *
1929 24 SA *
1931 24 SA *
1933 118 SA 8 SS *
1934 126 SA 75 SS *
1935 36 SS 40 SS 28 NSKK *
1936 25 SA 3 SS 35 NSKK *
1937 30 SA 1 SS 34 NSKK 1 Polizei *
1938 42 SS 14 SS 21 NSKK 16 NSFK *
1942 1 SA (Fritz Todt, reused Munich-II cloth - OFW type 1)
Totals are 449 SA, 141 SS, 118 NSKK(R), 1 Polizei, 16 NSFK(R).
(* according To Daten Der Geschichte Der NSDAP)

What does an NSFK look like? I had someone tell me they were offered one but they passed as they wanted the traditional SA one, so I assume there is some kind of difference?

[Erich B.]

The top pictured by Gian was used for the DE of the Mounted SS, NSKK, and the NSFK. The Reiter SA used a pole top with the same eagle but with a longer pole sleeve and with 2 fittings that hold a perpendicular metal arm to which the flag is attached.
Erich

[rkdek]

Nice DE on Weitze, item number 231552

[der-hase-fee]

Nice DE on Weitze, item number 231552

- how much are they asking ?

[rkdek]

Por

[oldflagswanted]

old fake offered as real ???

Here is another reproduction. $4-6K ???? [See post #60b for larger view]

d-h-f:
Thanks for the heads up about an old fake offered as "real".
OFW
(below) Bullion fake DE banner vs. (OFW type 3) period original.

[der-hase-fee]

Here is another reproduction being offered. Description declares it as an original; however, no guarantee !

[oldflagswanted]

Bent "G" Fake DE Banner.

Here is another reproduction being offered.
Description declares it as an original; however,
no guarantee !

d-h-f:
Looks like the same bent "G" fake as
shown in this thread post #61 on right.
OFW

[robs]

Has anyone asked Mr Weitze how much? It'll be good to know for thread reference.

[robs]

Here's another banner for sale at Relics of the Reich, priced at about 27k, condition is very good.

Lost provenance but recovered in Germany near the French border.

"...minor abrasions to the silk and a small hole on the front side & the red,white and black wool fringe shows a few missing strands."

http://www.relicsofthereich.com/comp...wache-standard

[robs]

And Herr Weitze kindly informed me of the asking price for his current set..60k euro.

[oldflagswanted]

DE part prices ???

And Herr Weitze kindly informed me of the asking price for his current set..60k euro.

robs:
Thanks for the DE set price quote info.
And also the $27.5K DE banner link too.
Nice to see it has the correct "G" font.
OFW
(below) As cited for sale DE banner correct "G".