I have a byf 1941 p08 luger for review. All the numbers are matching including the magazine. Is it true that finding a luger with a matching magazine is rare? The seller is asking for $2200 US. Thank you so much for your help!
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Is the holster included? If so, $2200 is a good deal. Still a pretty good price without the holster too. Matching mags aren't really all that rare, but they certainly add a few hundred bucks to the value. I have a matching mag luger. Lots of people have one, but lots of others don't.Comment
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It looks like the pistol is marked 8750 and the mag is 8150. A mistake by the stamper perhaps? Lol
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Nice looking P08 but the magazine does not match. Still if it comes with the holster I'd still buy it.Comment
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Nice looking 41. 2.2 K is not a bad price, especially if it comes with the holster. I would grab it. .Comment
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Yes I still agree. Lugers are cool no matter what, even if it is miss-matched no doubtably it happened during the war. I say go for it
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Assuming the mag is fxo marked not 122, you have only two possibilities:
1.Mag was mis-stamped with a 1 rather than a 7 when it was assembled with the pistol. Probably the mags were the last items fitted and stamped.
2. At some point after it left the factory until the photo was taken, a magazine marked within 48 hours of the pistol being completed (made about 300 per day in 41) and exactly 600 numbers off, ended up placed with this gun.
I know the possibility that I believe, but to each his own. That saying must have been written for 3rd Reich collectors!Comment
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I believe the serial number on both the gun and magazine matches with 8150. Here is a 41 byf Sn 7138w with both a 7 and a 1 in the serial number. The 1 on this gun matches the 1 on the front of the frame on the OP's gun. Fonts can be tricky on Lugers. The same number may look different depending on where it is stamped. I wish I could post the photo directly and not have to go through photobucket.
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I trade original Luger mags and collectors go through mine at every show looking for specific numbers to mate with pistols. The closest one has come was the correct number and WaA but wrong letter block. Doubtless, these combinations became "factory mismatches." Unless it's an exact match, the mag is close, but from another gun. Also, the holster with this '41 appears to have been re-stitched, which reduces its value considerably. Looks like a nice Luger but paying extra for a matching mag is risky.Comment
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How can you tell that from the pictures above? Theres only a few inches of stitching visibleOriginally posted by oldcorps View PostComment
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I agree 100% - the mag appears to be matching numbered to the gun. Look at the font on the numbers used on the frame; they are the same font as used on the magazine base (but the frame + mag base font is different from the barrel and the rest of the gun). So, yes, on some parts of the gun the digit at issue looks like a one; on other parts it looks like a seven. IMO, very similar to the mixed-font situation that we noted on the early ac41 Walther-produced P.38 pistol a week or two ago (and which thread is still visible, below, for review).
I'd be curious to know the date on the holster . . . to me it has the "look" (in style of construction, not just condition) of a WWI-era holster. Also, I think that the toe portion of the holster may have been re-stitched . . . just compare the bright white stitching on the toe to the original stitching on the tie-down strap on the holster's flap. That said, more detailed photos of the holster would be needed to definitively evaluate the possible re-stitching issue.
BTW: I suspect that the mixed-font numbering issue is covered in Don Hallock's Mauser P.08 book . . . I've just not had the time to dig thru the book to look into the matter.Comment
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The matching mag issue is a "wanna believe" and not a problem unless it's offered for future sale. As for the holster, it seems to lack the middle row of stitching that would be present on the WWI models and what stitching is visible is far too white to be original. A dealer at last weekend's show had a presentable brown WWII Luger holster in his case but when he got it out to show it to me, the flap became separated from the body so no sale. It amazes me that the Civil War leather goods I have still show relatively intact original stitching while many WWII holsters that were improperly stored are coming apart due to rot.
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