MG 34 Stamp Mark

[mp409mm]

Hi, I have this MG 34 and I found this stamp mark on it, can any identify what does it stand for please. Thanks
Alf

[me6_130]

Well, it looks like a WaA stamp...but never seen one like this one. Can you show more pics of this MG and tell a bit of where it came from?

Carles

[AndyB]

Most real refurbishment or repair and acceptance Heeres Zeug Amt Ingolstadt nr.3 b.r.Andy

[k98]

Just my theory !

This Mg34 was selected for didactical thecnical purposes by selected WaA team
Just look at the spoon from an Rg 34 kit

[mp409mm]

This Mg34 was selected for didactical thecnical purposes by selected WaA team
Just look at the spoon from an Rg 34 kit

Thank you guys for all your feedback.
" didactical thecnical" what does that mean please.
Well I bought it locally and I do not know from were it came from, sorry.
Alf.

[mp409mm]

Most real refurbishment or repair and acceptance Heeres Zeug Amt Ingolstadt nr.3 b.r.Andy

Can you please explain more in this this .
Thanks
Alf.

[timg]

Re BSW 38 DATED MG

Hi Alf,

Nice 34, any chance of some more pictures of it, close ups of sections etc so we can see if their are any technical variations.

Subject to confirmation, I suspect that k98 is indicating that the specialist team selected this weapon for tests of some kind (sort of why I was asking for more shots of the weapon to see if we could spot anything)

Regards

Tim

[k98]

Hi Alf,

Nice 34, any chance of some more pictures of it, close ups of sections etc so we can see if their are any technical variations.

Subject to confirmation, I suspect that k98 is indicating that the specialist team selected this weapon for tests of some kind (sort of why I was asking for more shots of the weapon to see if we could spot anything)

Regards

Tim

[mp409mm]

I will get some picture and post them.
Alf

[wandering38]

Most real refurbishment or repair and acceptance Heeres Zeug Amt Ingolstadt nr.3 b.r.Andy

AndyB is correct. This proof mark (and others like it) indicate that the weapon was repaired, modified, or overhauled by a repair depot, in this case the one at Ingolstadt. These markings appear on all types of German guns. You see them most commonly on K98's with replaced barrels or stocks. They also appear on guns that were assembled entirely at the depot using spare and salvaged parts, and they appear on random small parts that were actually produced at the depot. The disassembly spoon in the photo would be an example of a depot-made part. I have also seen ejector plates, cocking arms, and levers for the mg34; safeties and rear sight sliders for the K98; and springs for the P08 Luger that were produced from scratch in depots. As far as guns that were assembled entirely from spare and salvaged parts at a depot, I personally own 5 k98's, two Lugers, and one incomplete mg34 that were assembled from spare & salvaged parts at depots. My mg34 was built at the Posen depot in occupied Poland in 1944, and is the only one of its type that I have ever seen.

[mp409mm]

AndyB is correct. This proof mark (and others like it) indicate that the weapon was repaired, modified, or overhauled by a repair depot, in this case the one at Ingolstadt. These markings appear on all types of German guns. You see them most commonly on K98's with replaced barrels or stocks. They also appear on guns that were assembled entirely at the depot using spare and salvaged parts, and they appear on random small parts that were actually produced at the depot. The disassembly spoon in the photo would be an example of a depot-made part. I have also seen ejector plates, cocking arms, and levers for the mg34; safeties and rear sight sliders for the K98; and springs for the P08 Luger that were produced from scratch in depots. As far as guns that were assembled entirely from spare and salvaged parts at a depot, I personally own 5 k98's, two Lugers, and one incomplete mg34 that were assembled from spare & salvaged parts at depots. My mg34 was built at the Posen depot in occupied Poland in 1944, and is the only one of its type that I have ever seen.

Thank you for this information. very informative, I must say.
Alf

[me6_130]

[...] and one incomplete mg34 that were assembled from spare & salvaged parts at depots. My mg34 was built at the Posen depot in occupied Poland in 1944, and is the only one of its type that I have ever seen.

Would you mind posting or starting a new thread so we can see your MG? Those made of parts I have seen are usually post war or RCs

Carles

[mp409mm]

Would you mind posting or starting a new thread so we can see your MG? Those made of parts I have seen are usually post war or RCs

Carles

If they are post war how come that the stamp is with Eagle over Swaz.
Alf

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"If they are post war how come that the stamp is with Eagle over Swaz.
Alf"


Hi Alf,

Carles is not saying yours is post war, more a case of the ones he has seen that are assembled from spares etc are post war ( things like the isreali marked 34's are commonly considered to have been assembled from bits and pieces left in the factories at the end of the war, with perhaps some fresh made smaller parts to fill the gaps)

It would appear that you have a genuine, German refurbished weapon from ww2 which is why the guys would like to see the pics.

You will undoubtedly be bombarded with requests for various markings etc :-)

You have to remember that a pre war manufactured gun is a rare survivor and no surprise really that it would have ended up as a refurbishment due to battlefield use.

I have several British Brens that have the history of the use and refurbishment process stamped onto them, one of which was refurbished twice from new. Its just part of the interest in these things.

Regards

Tim

[me6_130]

I mean post war made up with parts of other MG, French or Spanish army, canibalising parts to keep MGs working. They were made with parts that had the stamps already...

Carles