SS issue PPK

[LES Y]

Hi guys,
Here are some pics of my latest acquisition, an SS issue PPK. The gun is all original with a lovely deep blue finish with holster wear in all the right places, it has the "K Under" version serial number which is also on the Mag.
The white marks in the slide serrations is Ren Wax residue.

Many thanks to Steve (Tepo911) for the information.

The last pic shows it next to my RZM PPK

Les

[LES Y]

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[sszza2]

Congrats on your very early Type 4 SS PPK! Very nice. I also have an example of this variation but unfortunately mine has a correct SS numbered but mismatched mag. It appears yours shows British proof marks on frame, slide and barrel. I own a period correct and matching WW1 Kar98a converted to K98k configuration single deaths head marked SS rifle which has similar British proof marks and made it to the US. Please correct me if I am wrong but my understanding is that such marks were required to be applied to captured and surplus weapons prior to release by government for sale or export.

[LES Y]

The marks are U.K. Deactivation Proof Marks.

[sszza2]

The marks are U.K. Deactivation Proof Marks.

I recently purchased a P08 which had not been deactivated from a US veteran who purchased it while in service in the UK during I believe the late '50's early '60's. My rifle was not deactivated prior to finding its way to the US. Any indication by markings of when deactivation requirements vs. release markings went into effect in the UK?

[SiPo]

Ahaa! Now I know who beat me to it.

Over 3 years of searching for this particular type, checking the same old haunts then a few days working away takes me out of the game and bang......missed one??? Typical!

Congrats on your acquisition.

[HowardC]

Ss ??? Ppk

May I ask what identifies this as an SS PPK as oppossed to a police issue PPK, for example. My C code N over crown PPK has a K at the end of the serial number. Does that signify anything may I ask? Thanks.

[JoeW]

May I ask what identifies this as an SS PPK as oppossed to a police issue PPK, for example. My C code N over crown PPK has a K at the end of the serial number. Does that signify anything may I ask? Thanks.

Howard, several years ago research in German archives by Dieter Marshall and Joachim Gortz resulted in the publication of a book listing by serial number Walther PPs and PPKs that were positively identified as being issued to members of the RSHA (SS). In correlating this information with known pistols on this list in existence, noted collector John Pearson proposed that all pistols featuring the same serial range, serial number marking location and numbered magazines were in fact RSHA pistols. ie. If it walks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's a duck.

Some of this information is available in two threads pinned a the beginning of this forum. Finishing the specifics of your question, the "K" suffix of the gun at the beginning of this forum and the "K" suffix of your Eagle C PPK mean the same thing. It was a serial number identifier used by Walther to differentiate production numbers of PPs and PPKs. But the arrangement of the K under the serial number on the above gun, plus the matching numbered magazines identifies it as having the same specific characteristics as known RSHA PPKs.

Of course as we know the Kriminalpolizei was originally part of the Order Police until 1936, many firearms issued to the pre-1936 Kripo became part of the arsenal of the RSHA. And there is some indication that later issue police accepted firearms did end up in the RSHA arsenal.