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Gold Plated Walther PP Factory Engraved "SS" Unit Presentation Pistol

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    #16
    point of fact

    actually any date before the war is pre war aka 1919 is in fact prewar. as is 1898 so i guess a 1898 mauser is pre ww2?

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      #17
      Originally posted by pitts duncan View Post
      dedicated to the blush of the 57 standing fuhercorps of ustabarie. apparently ustabarie doesn't interpret to english. wanna sell it? how much?
      Starts at $10grand
      http://www.icollector.com/Exceptiona...-Pis_i11028185

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        #18
        Just keep in mind that people here are paying >$10k for series produced pots and rags (I wouldn't)...

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          #19
          Price is actually not that bad for something this rare?

          Are there any numbers know for how much were pruduced in gold/silver and in black/metal? Being a medalcollector this is the first i ever see for sale. Pretty cool!

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            #20
            Originally posted by jabnus View Post
            Price is actually not that bad for something this rare?

            Are there any numbers know for how much were pruduced in gold/silver and in black/metal? Being a medalcollector this is the first i ever see for sale. Pretty cool!
            The auction estimate is 35k? I do not know if this has a letter from Walther but its clearly a pimped out golden Walther with grip stock presentations to a WSS solder with KC / Oaks. Really??. Provenance is an authors collection and it looks like it should light a cigar. When I see these things I wonder and then run to the Winchester section of the catalog which is always filled with treats without so much hot sauce. Golden gun seeking a golden goose. Jmho

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              #21
              One simple answer..made in ulm or zela mehlis ? Funny, cant see the side slider......

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                #22
                Originally posted by zitadelle1 View Post
                One simple answer..made in ulm or zela mehlis ? Funny, cant see the side slider......

                Are you kidding? Look at the pic in post #3: Waffenfabrik Walther, Zella-Mehlis (Thur).

                The Walther company in the past only provided one letter for an engraved presentation. The description is correct in that the gun appears in a group with other engraved presentation pistols. Nice oakleaves and acorns engraving. The question is the grips IMO.

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                  #23
                  ..just a piece of paper!

                  ..i just saw this, was so faint, didn't realize was there!
                  Attached Files

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by zitadelle1 View Post
                    One simple answer..made in ulm or zela mehlis ? Funny, cant see the side slider......
                    You might want to schedule a meeting with an optometrist In any case, do you really think they would risk a possible $15-30k fake by saving a $50 in raw materials?

                    I would love to own PP or PPK like this, but I'm way too poor - or cheap

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                      #25
                      Fan-freaken-tastic!

                      I'm right there with you. What a kickass PP... Ivory handles.. nice

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Aktivisti View Post
                        You might want to schedule a meeting with an optometrist In any case, do you really think they would risk a possible $15-30k fake by saving a $50 in raw materials?

                        I would love to own PP or PPK like this, but I'm way too poor - or cheap
                        ok..didnt see the other pics. You say this, but the engraved Hitler ppk was clearly post war factory.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by zitadelle1 View Post
                          ok..didnt see the other pics. You say this, but the engraved Hitler ppk was clearly post war factory.
                          Not clear enough to someone.

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                            #28
                            Interesting how the internet works sometimes, the engraving on this piece looks fine but could not help but think how easy it would be to run down a the officer lists with the initials for a suitable candidate. Go's on far too much and the premiums for a gun to WSS With KC and oaks could be huge. And you take a look at a letter and provenance and go hunting and find this. http://forums.p38forum.com/forums/vi...hilit=engraved

                            Maybe the grips are right but they look brand new with no sign of age, the letter is a letter with names and such but no real provenance to put this gun in the hands of the named recipient in the auction ad. Anyone who thinks guns are safe should read that thread for sure, the grip plates for most of these that I was able to find would make this one an off variant or non standard. Still liking that Winchester section though. Of course the gun could be 100% all the way. Best to do some homework as C.O.A's mean little and self reliance in this hobby go's a long way towards self preservation.
                            Last edited by J. Wraith; 08-29-2011, 05:47 PM.

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                              #29
                              Since we have an engraved Walther coming from the collection of a known engraved Walther faker, I would tend to be very skeptical.

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                                #30
                                Amazing!

                                Originally posted by J. Wraith View Post
                                Interesting how the internet works sometimes, the engraving on this piece looks fine but could not help but think how easy it would be to run down a the officer lists with the initials for a suitable candidate. Go's on far too much and the premiums for a gun to WSS With KC and oaks could be huge. And you take a look at a letter and provenance and go hunting and find this. http://forums.p38forum.com/forums/vi...hilit=engraved

                                Maybe the grips are right but they look brand new with no sign of age, the letter is a letter with names and such but no real provenance to put this gun in the hands of the named recipient in the auction ad. Anyone who thinks guns are safe should read that thread for sure, the grip plates for most of these that I was able to find would make this one an off variant or non standard. Still liking that Winchester section though. Of course the gun could be 100% all the way. Best to do some homework as C.O.A's mean little and self reliance in this hobby go's a long way towards self preservation.
                                thanks.. this one is good too from your post http://forums.p38forum.com/forums/viewt ... c&start=60

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