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**dect** · 11-30-2009, 12:05 AM

Very poor quality replica

**Jame** · 11-30-2009, 04:03 AM

Originally posted by dect View Post

Very poor quality replica

I agree!!

**Schuasta** · 11-30-2009, 06:13 AM

Thanks verry much....!!!!!

**Ingsoc75** · 11-30-2009, 08:04 AM

Maybe somebody was going for the "MP44 butt stock found in attic look".

**Frank De Smedt** · 11-30-2009, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by dect View Post

Very poor quality replica

Hi Dect,

Why a replica?

I'm just asking because a replica would at least have the exact shape of an original to be saleable.
It would be sanded and have the iron fiittings.
There should be multiple for sale.

This example has wood worms as well.

Hobbywork is plausible but even than it should be sanded.

Late war could be a theorie, but I haven't seen pics of this tipe of buttstock
in use.

Please comment my remarks?

Regards,

FRANK

**dect** · 11-30-2009, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by Frank De Smedt View Post

Hi Dect,

Why a replica?

I'm just asking because a replica would at least have the exact shape of an original to be saleable.
It would be sanded and have the iron fiittings.
There should be multiple for sale.

This example has wood worms as well.

Hobbywork is plausible but even than it should be sanded.

Late war could be a theorie, but I haven't seen pics of this tipe of buttstock
in use.

Please comment my remarks?

Regards,

FRANK

Hi

Fake: looks very much like the original and bears all the correct markings (in other words it pretends to be original).
Replica: looks like an original but not necessarily bears all/any correct markings
Copy: more or less looks like original item

So yes, I've made a mistake - it's a copy. Very poor copy. It's not even close to late war, simplified stocks of any kind

How would you call it then?

Jacek

**DennyB** · 11-30-2009, 12:18 PM

Wouldn't even a very late war have the hole for the sling? I tend to think it was an unfinished part.

**Frank De Smedt** · 11-30-2009, 01:50 PM

Denny,

Good point.
If we look at the front of this piece we also see it has been mounted on a rifle (screw holes and wear arround the front).

This butt is made by a machine using bad quality wood .

The wood has it grain eaten/wearen trough the years.

Why would someone make half work (belt / sanding) even for a copy.
Because they are in hurry to make something that looks like a tekstbook one or something that's functional and made very fast?

This piece is very interesting and needs further investigation....

Regards,

FRANK

PS Jacek very nice site you have!

**Schuasta** · 11-30-2009, 02:24 PM

Hey Gentlemens,

thanks for this nice interesting.

I have found this buttstock - and wos woundered ???

I have talk with some German Ground-Searchers - they talk me - some found a original MP44 in the eart - with a buttstock - wothout holes for the sling - and without metall at the end ???

Now i think ?? Is this a Hobby-Homework..or REAL - a rare original Late war Item ????

Thanks for your comments,

**tchuse** · 11-30-2009, 09:44 PM

maybe its a cobbled replacement after the war as alot of them had there butstocks smashed off at this time?

**bodes** · 11-30-2009, 10:06 PM

Originally posted by dect View Post

Hi
So yes, I've made a mistake - it's a copy. Very poor copy. It's not even close to late war, simplified stocks of any kind

How would you call it then?

Jacek

Jacek, You called it right....."Replica" is just a short term for the word replicated.....Replicated means "to copy"......

I'm not 100% sure any body can say what it is.....I like the two theories.....Maybe it is an unfinished original or a postwar substitute(?)......That's why provenance in this case is so very important.......Bodes

**dect** · 11-30-2009, 11:06 PM

Frank and Bodes - thanks

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