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**Perry Floyd** · 07-20-2002, 06:03 AM

Let me take a stab at this with the little I've learned since I purchased my partial ground Rohm...
The "hack jobs" like the one I have is sometimes refered to as a "poor mans" Dagger. The original owner could'nt afford to have the enite dedication and name professionally taken off. It was left to the resources he had available at home or another free/cheap avenue. Most likely a grinding wheel and alot of the times as little as possible. Usually just the Rohm name like the one I have. The rest of the dedication on mine is all there then you have this inch long deep grind spot right after that. I guess the fear of execution hasten the removal..
Ok dagger guys did I get it right???

My other question is at what point is it NOT considered a partial ground Rohm? What if the entire dedication was ground away but you still see traces all along the edges of the grind? Still a partial?

**Bob Rodgers** · 07-20-2002, 08:38 AM

Great questions.

I for one , hate the fact, dealers jack the price up a little just for the inscription, with out the name, it is just writing. But in the same instance, it was a rohm dagger. I have partials, in a few style's ( name only, center ridge missing, loops left, 1st letter left) so i can atleast compare them. Did i pay more for them ?? maybe, but there all exc condition so it did cost me more, but not too much, maybe 50.00. All these were bought in a range of 350-550 .

As for the "poor mans ground ". I have seen 5-6 of these this year alone, so im beginning to wonder about them, i do have a name only that apears as a poor mans ground, but the rest is perfect.

Nothing stops a seller from grinding the SA blade and stating its a rohm dagger. I see this all the time on auction sites, These people forget which makers are known to have had rohm daggers. Sometime they used makers that are not known to have made them also.

I hope this helps

**Perry Floyd** · 07-20-2002, 10:22 AM

Bob what's your theory on why your seeing more of the "poor mans ground" dagger? Also if any hint of the dedication is still present is it still considered a partial ground Rohm or just a ground Rohm?

**Bob Rodgers** · 07-20-2002, 09:09 PM

Hey im n not totally sure about this,

But i dont trust the "poor mans" daggers comming out, some are easy to tell they are real, some are not.

As for the ground vs. Partial.

Partial is , what is states
Named Only, same
Ground, 99% must be gone

**Skipper Greenwade** · 07-20-2002, 10:04 PM

I would have to agree with Bob's criteria for determining what to call a Rohm dagger in its various stages. Mine - which I consider a fully ground Rohm dagger has just a trace of the line that crosses the "T" in "Ernst" and a hint of the first letter remaining.

As for grinding a perfectly good dagger to try to suqeeze an extra fifty bucks out of it...makes no sense to me! I would think the average colelctor would want to see a trace of one letter just to know for sure.

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