now this cant be a real sa dagger or am i wrong

[Foundskippy]

Im not really new to this and i want to know what kind of dagger this is
looks like its made from repro parts with a real blade





Help me out guys ^^


Hmm i've been looking around on the net and came across that this is an SS/SA (cant read the pin if its ss or sa honor dagger.
what are the chances that this is a repro?

[grip3846]

100%

Hi I don't think you can get better than 100% that this is a pile of.....well you know what
Regards,Ivan

[Krullies]

no

Hi Skippy

I think I saw the same dagger posted on Marktplaats-dot-nl by a guy named Nico, if I'm not mistaking. Here it is:
http://link.marktplaats.nl/311726469

The grip looks bad and too new, the inscription looks too "straight" compared to for instance this good, reliable source:



You will want additional photographs, but compare what you have with text and images that can be found here:

http://www.therupturedduck.com/WebPages/Edged/e441b.htm

The blade might be real, but without close(r) ups you can't really see the inscription, nor the quality of it, nor its position on the blade. I don't know if honor daggers were made by RZM 7/36, I do know they were made starting in 1934. I would trust an honor dagger without RZM mark over a dagger with RZM mark. And, first of all, as buffer pads were hardly used, I'd never opt for paying for a dagger having a buffer pad between crossguard and blade without actualy seeing the dagger myself. 99,9999% of these pads are put on to mask bad fittings. And SS daggers always have splendid, nice, superior fittings

These 'honor' scabbards seem to pop up all over the place all of a sudden. I've seen 4 of these on eBay in January alone. Anyway, just a sideline note.

All in all I'd say that the chances of this dagger being reproduction are 100 out of 100 percent. But of course I don't know much, so maybe subtract 1 percent for frankness. Who knows, this might be that genuine dagger that slips through everyone's fingers. I doubt it wholeheartedly though. Really, don't pay more than €24,99 for this display piece unless you've seen, sniffed, caressed, held and validated its authenticity yourself.

Anyone else wants to chip in and shed another light on this one?

Very best regards,
Karin-Renate

[RUHL13]

The handle has that "plastic" look
And would agree about an inscription on a RZM blade.

[Foundskippy]

i have asked the seller for some more pictures, here they come

[Jawohl]

H

[Seiler]

Hi I don't think you can get better than 100% that this is a pile of.....well you know what
Regards,Ivan

How goes it Ivan?
You mean a pile of doggie stuff????:
Never in a month of Sundays.
Seiler

[thor62]

it's a marto (spanish) repro
the blade with RZM can not have motto .... himmler
karl
so not good

[rbminis]

This is a copy that someone has actually distressed to make it look old. The pommel is actually crumbling.

[Larry Lipps]

These have been around for 30 years. You can buy them at almost any military show for about 20 bucks. As was stated, someone attempted to age this one, but it's still a pigs ear.

[SwordFish]

Young Jedi,
Trash dagger this is. All the way reproduction dagger pictured it is.

[victorbaule]

This is the well-known playback for the company Marto, in Toledo, Spain.

The HONOR DAGGER SS NEVER HAVE THE RZM CODE AND THE HIMMLER
DAGGER NEVER HAVE THE RZM CODE.

[victorbaule]

The price was 50 euros.

[777]

Hi Skippy

I think I saw the same dagger posted on Marktplaats-dot-nl by a guy named Nico, if I'm not mistaking. Here it is:
http://link.marktplaats.nl/311726469

Wow! Sold for 200 euros!

... or still for sale (can't speek dutch) waiting for more?