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nice ss dagger, maker E.P.&Söhne, original?

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    #16
    SS dagger

    I guess it's time for school again, is the maker mark OK?

    I thought, the right knee should have a "V"
    the hammer should be square and filled
    the & in E.P.& S. should be smaller than the letters....

    Did I hear the teacher wrong and take bad notes in class that day?

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      #17
      What exactly do we call that style of pommel nut ?

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        #18
        Originally posted by JR. View Post
        What exactly do we call that style of pommel nut ?
        My thoughts exactly.

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          #19
          Where is the Roman numeral district mark ?

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            #20
            Why all the abrasive horizontal scratches to the top crossguard on what normally would be smooth nickel fittings ? Steelwool cleaning ?

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              #21
              Run Forrest...RUN

              Totally bogus maker mark and pommel nut and, etc ,etc.

              Mark

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                #22
                Originally posted by JR. View Post
                What exactly do we call that style of pommel nut ?
                It's the low-profile, aerodynamic pommel..less drag when running for waf-ss troopers...I think...then again, probably not.

                Tommy Boy

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                  #23
                  so what now???
                  Is this dagger original or not????

                  Originally posted by SwordFish View Post
                  It's the low-profile, aerodynamic pommel..less drag when running for waf-ss troopers...I think...then again, probably not.

                  Tommy Boy

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                    #24
                    So far it's not looking to good.

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                      #25
                      Note how distressed the metal is on the hanger but the leather is minty.

                      -wagner-

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                        #26
                        Wow! I guess these are getting scary, I see the differences now. Superficially, WOW! We need to be really careful these days!
                        Best Wishes,
                        Bob
                        www.collectortocollectormilitaria.com

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                          #27
                          Bob, I'm not ready to give up on this dagger yet........... but there definitely is some challenges as noted by several of the members.

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                            #28
                            Thanks JR!
                            There are many parts of the dagger I like and some now as pointed out I do not. I have to pull out some more vertical hangers but I do notice on the one buy me the rivets are different. I always feel better with a “hands on” vs. pictures.
                            Talk soon,
                            Bob
                            www.collectortocollectormilitaria.com

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                              #29
                              This is the motto etch on a Pack M33 SS. Perhaps one of the collectors could put my photo together with the one that started this topic, to see how they stack up.
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                                #30
                                The trademark is quite different, but then again we know that this firm used several on at least their SA pieces.
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