strange find!

[Gimpy117]

found one one these hanging in a shoe shop in my town...this is not the actual one but it's just about the same... I'm reasonably sure it's this but I can go back and get actual pics...

[John Allen]

strange find

The bayonet that is pictured is a Bavarian M1869 Werder. It has had the blade narrowed and the hilt back has been ground down so that it will fit either a Bav M69 with a M1871 nose cap or M1871 Mauser. The scabbard throat has also had an insert put into it to make up for the narrower blade. These are modifications that the Bavarians made. Better pictures would be needed of the bayonet in the shoe shop to make sure. There are several variations that exist and some were used and modified in South America.

[Gimpy117]

The bayonet that is pictured is a Bavarian M1869 Werder. It has had the blade narrowed and the hilt back has been ground down so that it will fit either a Bav M69 with a M1871 nose cap or M1871 Mauser. The scabbard throat has also had an insert put into it to make up for the narrower blade. These are modifications that the Bavarians made. Better pictures would be needed of the bayonet in the shoe shop to make sure. There are several variations that exist and some were used and modified in South America.

yea I could go see...

hopefully I can do it discretely as to not weird them out taking pictures of their stuff

at least I know it looked similar so I would think whatever it is its at least from that period. what are these things worth anyways?

[Philipson]

There are a number of these that are at first glans very much alike.
They can come from a variety of countries.
They look nice, are ofthen relatively cheap and i think most are from 1865-1890.
I have 2 Belgian Yataghans wich appear a little longer and a little more curved.
The idea was to combine sword and bayonet in one.

[James N.]

Of course the French used this style of sabre-bayonet, too, for the Chassepot rifle. French examples will have a marking engraved in script on the backside of the blade such as "Mfre Imple du Chatellerout Mai 1867"; which would translate as "Made in the Imperial factory in Chatllerout in May, 1867". During the First Empire of Napoleon I most edged weapons were made in the old Royal arsenal at Klingenthal; experience proved that to be TOO exposed, being near the frontier, so it was relocated in the post-Napoleonic period farther into the interior to Chatllerout.

Also, during the U.S. Civil War sabre bayonets were manufactured in small numbers by both North and South, often for the so-called "Mississippi Rifles" which had originally been issued in the 1840's during the Mexican War without a bayonet. The Confederate version, made for their Fayetteville ( N.C. ) Rifle, is a VERY rare and desirable variant.