Value on this SA dagger?

[PerMilitaria]

Hi!

I now have the chance to buy this SA dagger and I wonder what the value is?
It is not mint. It is marked "M7/14" and with the "RZM" , what does it mean?
"Alles für Deutschland" is written on the blade.

Pretty bad photos but I hope they are OK!

Best wishes from Per.

[PerMilitaria]

Just that everyone knows; it has the "Alles für Deutschland" on the blade.

[jancz3rt]

Hi

Given the condition of the blade, you are probably not looking at a great amount for it. My guess would be 400 USD max. That too may be too generous. Just my 50 cents.

JAN

[ivbaust]

My opinion ... save your money and buy later a dagger in better quality. You´ll enjoy a high quality item in your collection much more.

[carlos1]

My opinion ... save your money and buy later a dagger in better quality. You´ll enjoy a high quality item in your collection much more.

I totaly agree.
it is better with 1 mint dagger,than 3 bad ones.

[Mac 66]

Just that everyone knows; it has the "Alles für Deutschland" on the blade.

IT means "ALL FOR GERMANY" & a value would be around $300 not much more so save your money for a much better example you,ll feel a lot happier with a nice SA dagger trust me.......Regards Scott.

[colt45s]

RZM is not in the centre of the fake blade that has rusted because of poor quality

[Stu W]

Hello Per,

IMHO that dagger is worth no more than a couple hundred dollars, if authentic. I feel that the value of any edged weapon is in the blade and in that condition there is little value left in the item. As you have not shown the blade tip nor full scabbard it's difficult to be more accurate.

If SA daggers are not your area and you wish to have a quick lesson in them have a look at this tutorial by Paul Hogle, a member here, in which the types are commented upon.

http://www.lakesidetrader.com/sa.html

I hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Stu

[Xray]

Early daggers were stamped with a manufacturers name andcompany logo, such as Eickhorn with the trademark squirrel.
Later daggers such as this [towards the last years of the TR] were stamped RZM ReichZeugMeisterei, (National Equipment Quartermaster), which was a bureau for quality control and standardization for party issued gear.
There was also mid period marked daggers, generally referred to as "transitional" - These can has both RZM codes and makers mark.
The number code m7/14 simply is a code for a particular manufacturer, P.D. Luneschloss Solingen in this case.

Because early/mid daggers are usually superior in quality than later ones such as this, they are more desirable, and hence worth more $$.
Also, they tend not to be as corroded as the later ones, due to their use of better materials.

I wouldn't go so far as to say "don't buy it".
They are legitimate historical weapons, and have value.
I agree with the others, about $300 tops for this one, without seeing the scabbard its hard to say if even that.

Not sure if the blade is fake, as someone has suggested, because of the uncentered RZM.
Workmanship and quality were deteriorating at that point, due to the bad turn on the fighting fronts, and an uncentered logo is certainly not, in and of itself, an indication of a reproduction.

[carlos1]

Hello Per.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=342627

here is one of mine daggers

[PerMilitaria]

Thank you all for your help!

I'm not sure if I will buy this dagger... probably not...

Best wishes from Per.

[kirk]

I would not buy this dagger, because there are much better examples available!

[Xray]

I'll buy just about any damn thing if the price is right.
I've seen people right here pay some decent $$ for rotted out EK ground finds, if there is a market for items like that there certainly should be one for sub standard daggers as well.