Help on SS Dagger

[mdn]

Hi, I need some expert help for this dagger I bought along with a bunch of other third reich militaria, most of it is genuine, but I am not convinced about this one. I am medal collector so my knowledge is not big on daggers, but all the pages I checked I haven't found anyone looking like this. So could you guys perhaps tell me if it is a fake or some of the parts are? Please (since I would like to learn more) let me know why it isn't genuine.
By the way sorry for the lousy pics, let me know if they're no good!

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[Larry Lipps]

Unfortunately, this is fake. For starters, Himmler daggers were not RZM marked.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi and welcome to the forum.

Sorry, I agree with Larry. It is bad for the reason stated. These fakes have been around many many years.

Cheers, Ade.

[mdn]

Thanks

Thanks guys, that's what I thought - Just wanted to make sure. Nothing seems to add up. The oak leaves are to my knowledge also only on the "ehren" version which had gold writing, right?

[Skipper Greenwade]

I agree...total fantasy piece - in addition to the spurious RZM mark, the Himmler's didn't have the "Honor" crossguards either. There should also be enamel in the "SS" grip insignia - another dead giveaway on these fakes.

All Himmlers were made by Eickhorn and should feature the early TM (with or without the serrated-tail squirrel). Unless you look at the reverse of the blade, they are industinguishable from a standard 1933-pattern SS dagger.

Best,
Skip

[mdn]

Okay, didn't know that... I already thought it was a fake when I bought it, but it came with some very nice stuff including what seems to be a genuine allegemeine visor (or possible Schalburg Korps), and some books with signatures from Siegfried Taubert (One of Himmler's assistents and the head of Wewelsburg Castle), so all in all a good purchase... Except for this piece of course...