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[Stu W]

Again, Navy, with TR pommel and stamped maker mark. Looks OK to me...how about you? 7 pic's.

Thanks.

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[Wim Vangossum]

It's not easy to check out those (sometimes) horrible brass-made birds, but I think you've got an (nice looking) puma pommel on your weyersberg dagger!

The crossguard on the other hand is 100% weyersberg.

The normal scabbard for a weyersberg has headless side screws.

Regards, Theo

[Stu W]

Pommel Replaced?

I have read that some officers simply replaced their dagger pommel when the TR issue came about rather than the entire dagger. Is this dagger an early enough issue that that might be the case? Any estimate on issue date?

Stu

[GaryMJ]

Stu, Nice dagger... Looks like a change-over pommel to me. Is the scabbard brass or guilded steel?

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[Stu W]

Brass or steel

Hello Gary,

I'm thinking it's a gilded steel of some sort. I notice that there are a couple worn spots where the metal underneath is rusted.

Stu

[Skipper Greenwade]

You should be able to tell if it's steel with a magnet.

Looks good to me, but I'll defer to others re: the switched pommel (even thought I have "all the books", I get headaches trying to sort out the whole "this-crossguard-goes-with-this-pommel" thing) Not saying that's a bad thing, mind you...just a little too academic.

Still one that - from what I can see in the photos - I could be happy with.

Best,
Skip

[Stu W]

Now why didn't I think of that!

Of course, a magnet, first thing I reach for when checking out an EK. Yes the scabbard is steel underneath.

Stu

[GaryMJ]

Hi Stu

If it has the guilded steel scabbard, its late period and the pommel is correct for the period. Weyersberg retained brass hilt fittings towards the end where other makers of late pieces like Horster and even Eickhorn started using potmetal. They all converted to steel scabbards, and usually the Weyersbergs had a very heavy dark guilding, you will often also notice the lower scabbard band is not always centred between the scabbard pattern, can't tell if yours is off-centre... but its normal if it is. Nice late period dagger and quite hard to find in good shape...

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[Wim Vangossum]

Hi

I think my conclusions were a little bit to sharp. I'm sorry.

I still don't now what to think about the pommel but if the patina mach with the other fittings there is no problem. I have made some more research and yes, scabbard with domehead screws are also encounterd by weyersberg daggers. Like some others collectors said the dagger is of late period. the grip seems to be more white than usual. In the late period the germans devolpment an brighter celluliod than before. Your dagger has an leather buffer, thats also an characteristic of Weyersberg. And yes the Weyersberg dagger is very rare to find.

Regards, Theo