Heer nco schirmmütze questions

[laison]

I got this hat a few months ago.

I want about his names and unit and manufacturers informations.

Can anyone give me any information about hat?

I would be very grateful if you could help me.

[BenVK]

The stamps on the sweatband are as follows:

J. Denecke
Uniformmützenfabrik
Burgdorf/Hann

1935

4./J.R. ??1 = 4th Company, Infantry Regiment number ??1

The logo is one I recognise but can't remember the manufacturer at the moment.

Paper tag reads:

Uffz. (Unteroffizier) Libermann (my guess) M.kp. 588 which I think stands for Marsch kompanie 588.

[laison]

Thank you so much for your help.

I couldn't identify manufacturer because only some words were looked, but I was able to find same manufacturer stamps picture thanks to your help.

May I more ask.

Do you think the image of the logo is that of J. Denecke?

Do you have a clear image of the J. Denecke logo?

And my picture is not clear, but I see his unit information as "XX1 IR 1 BN 588 Maschinegewehr Kompanie".

Because the word in front of "/J.R." looks like the letter "I".

Can you tell me why you think 588 Marsch Kompanie?

The stamps on the sweatband are as follows:

J. Denecke
Uniformmützenfabrik
Burgdorf/Hann

1935

4./J.R. ??1 = 4th Company, Infantry Regiment number ??1

The logo is one I recognise but can't remember the manufacturer at the moment.

Paper tag reads:

Uffz. (Unteroffizier) Libermann (my guess) M.kp. 588 which I think stands for Marsch kompanie 588.

[BenVK]

I'm not a specialist in identifying unit stamps but I believe a machine gun kompanie would be abbreviated to M.G. kp

I knew I'd seen the logo before and here's a clearer example. The name looks like Carl Nordmann to me and was probably the leather band supplier. It can often be seen where the sweatband supplier would stamp the leather and then the cap manufacturer would also stamp it.

[revi]

Ben is right, Nordmann in Rudolstadt Thüringen is the leather band supplier, see pic. They even had a Gebrauchsmuster from 1939, i.e. somewhat equal to a patent, for composite leather using vinyl- and acrylderivates.

[laison]

Thanks to Ben and you, I got some really good information.

Really many thanks!!

I have another question.

You showed me two pictures of "Carl Nordmann".

Do you have a "J. Denecke" pictures similar to the one I showed you earlier? I just want to know about "J. Denecke."

If you have it, can you show me "J. Denecke" pictures?

If you don't mind, can you tell me which site the picture you showed me came from?

Ben is right, Nordmann in Rudolstadt Thüringen is the leather band supplier, see pic. They even had a Gebrauchsmuster from 1939, i.e. somewhat equal to a patent, for composite leather using vinyl- and acrylderivates.

[pauke]

The soldier's name is Delmmann.

[laison]

Thank you for your opinion.

The soldier's name is Delmmann.

[revi]

Laison, I found the pictures of Carl Nordmann mark simply by search on the internet using his name and Mützen ( visor )/ Schirmmütze etc., second picture is from some Gebrauchsmuster or Patent site where his name popped up. Did try to find Denecke the same way but with little succes. Only found his address in a tel. book from 1942, see pic. please. And for some reason Albert Kempf popped up several times, but that could simply be because of using the term "Mützen". Best, Seth.

[revi]

Name could possibly also be Dihrmann?

[laison]

I also looked up J. denecke's information.

Unfortunately, I was unable to find any detailed information about the company. But I could only find pictures of the manufactuer building.

I couldn't find the hat owner's unit information.

Because It's difficult to check the sweatband marking.

Is there anyone who can help you with this?

Laison, I found the pictures of Carl Nordmann mark simply by search on the internet using his name and Mützen ( visor )/ Schirmmütze etc., second picture is from some Gebrauchsmuster or Patent site where his name popped up. Did try to find Denecke the same way but with little succes. Only found his address in a tel. book from 1942, see pic. please. And for some reason Albert Kempf popped up several times, but that could simply be because of using the term "Mützen". Best, Seth.