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**viva_giulio** · 03-25-2013, 04:07 AM

Originally posted by Daniel.S View Post

Agree to 100% here.

And that this cap was sold for 4150 euros only tells me one thing......

The seller perfectly knew what he was selling.....

and buyer too

**biohazard69** · 03-25-2013, 05:42 AM

Originally posted by NickG View Post

Just acting as a neutral intermediary here...
A request from Besslein (Arek) asking me to post the following on his behalf: (questioning biohazard69's true character...)

"ok lets start ,the cap in question was mine ,last summer member in question has contacted me and has asked if i can sent him the cap becose he wanted to make some photos,so ok i have sent it but in fact i was not looking for sale,then after days he has refused to sent it back and wanted to do a deal,well i have taken hes offer to be paid many weeks later ,it was 4150 euro ,then from day one he has offered the cap on hes web site with POR as i understand now for 12 000 euro,the cap was cleaned and re shaped by him.
I dont think i have done here something bad ,just he wanted to make a near 8000 euro profit on me,and has played a 'friend" for years only to buy my real items for later resale,as he is full time dealer with a lot of questionable items that i have seen in the past and even he has told me on the phone what he is doing with repros item that he has.,well i still regret that i have not break this relationship early as my brother has told me but he was realy nice on the phone,has told me abaut hes family and privat life,so it has fooled me....
the most funny thing for me is that i have this cap for trade abaut two years ago on estand and i have get some offers just nothing was for me,as i was after some camo items back then,and in hand this cap has zero problems.im sure PVL is a expert with SS caps as he has made a book with 95% items bad inside,i still wonder where are all this item,he know for sure;-)

and now to show you- biohazard69 real face lets start with hes fake panzer wrapp that was posted by him for sale on waf two months ago
now for sale as real deal for near 2000 euro

http://allegro.pl/wehrmacht-panzerwr...127138668.html

and here shocking rest

http://allegro.pl/listing/user.php?us_id=24767597

http://allegro.pl/listing/user.php/r...us_id=24767597

http://allegro.pl/listing/user.php/r...us_id=24767597

so make your own mind who is here a bad guy ,and thanks to all for the last seven years here
frohe ostern!
Besslein

Also on Polish Ebay ...he is now offering this.....

http://allegro.pl/czapka-ss-crusher-...120476881.html

You f***ing idiot(to Besslein) this is not mine auctions!!!
I sold all of my mistakes like a reprodutictios and I dont care what the seller is doing with this items!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You told me that you need cash so you will sell me this"saint graal" for less money!!
Am I idot to put 4150 euro to trash?!!!!
I never cheated anybody -like you !
why you didnt wrote to me!!!
only to NIck
You are a coward!!

I see that for the end I m quilty!
10000 posts of the thief still working!!
Im out!

**viva_giulio** · 03-25-2013, 07:01 AM

nobody saves nobody and don't call yourself out cause automatically you will be associated to the auctions and problems. it's also important bessleints n explain the points about him visor at the moment he's the problem not you.

**Peter v L** · 03-25-2013, 07:49 AM

Originally posted by NickG View Post

PVL is a expert with SS caps as he has made a book with 95% items bad inside,i still wonder where are all this item,he know for sure;-)

I understand you are pissed to be exposed!

I am though happy I have succeded 5% better then you as your caps are 100% fakes !!

Peter v L

**COLLECT36** · 03-25-2013, 08:50 AM

Repro junk

This is what we have now in German collectibles!This guy sold this crap and this guy sells it and has posted junk for sale on E-stand.Is there any honesty left or integrity??I know decent collectors for many years and the ones that are left are sick and tired of the BULL****,period!I am not on this forum very long as a fairly new member,but what you call an ole time collector and I am glad I don't have to deal with this greed and total dishonesty!!!!!!!!! Frankly and this includes many of the "BIG DEALERS" give us a break and go sell old stocks or whatever and leave a great hobby alone you thieving crude!!IMO.CDR PS.This forum is one of the best,if not the best!Please keep putting on the bad guy gallery and weed this garbage out!

**Daniel.S** · 03-27-2013, 02:37 AM

guys..please stay on topic...

Nick..

Can you ask Arek if he is going to return the money to Jarek? If he says no because he believies these caps are ok (lol) , then it should be no problem for him to tell us where they originate from.

**Ohlau** · 03-27-2013, 04:49 AM

Arek if he is going to return the money to Jarek

I think now is a war between them...

Risky business and big money can not stay together with friendship in a long time.

That mean war at end....

**Graham G** · 03-28-2013, 10:25 AM

I too hope Jarek cna get his money back. still, why does Arek not simply get in direct contact with Jarek?

**DonC** · 03-28-2013, 10:27 AM

Originally posted by LSSAH1944 View Post

still, why does Arek not simply get in direct contact with Jarek?

That is the $64000 question...

Don

**NickG** · 03-28-2013, 04:51 PM

Yeah they don't talk to each other...a feud now...Dodgy items getting sold (under pressure?) which than get offered on the market by the other guy (Jarek) with even bigger profits...Those than get questioned and the dealer (Jarek) blaims the supplier (Arek) but in reality one is using the other as an outlet to sell? In other words they were in cahoots with each other??? but now claiming to be innocent? got fooled??
based on the below it also sound like Arek did not even want to sell these in the first place to the guy who is putting these on the market... (for bigger profit) See further...
I don't know...weird...It is all very fishy! One gets booted off WAF, the other pleads innocence and both claim they had been fooled???

Anyway Besslein (Arek) does communicate with me...
explaining in his attempt to defend himself the following to me today: (again I am just an intermediary!!!)
_____________________________________________

hey Nick
well all what i say is true,he has fooled me ,just simple ,he has played a friend ,................lesson taken.
about all of the items he has gotten from me ,he has always said that he wanted to keep these in his collection (but he doesn't have any collection) but instead was offering these the very next day on his web site with POR,all the auctions.

What i have sent you in my last email, these are all his! He told me in person about what he is doing,i was so stupid to talk with him after his fraud offers, but ,as i have written,he was a nice guy on the phone since years....
all in all i'm perhaps the first waf member that is expelled because of a crook.
warm regards
Arek

**Ohlau** · 03-29-2013, 03:44 AM

and both claim they had been fooled???

By each other...

**viva_giulio** · 03-29-2013, 05:27 AM

one crook? i saw more than one crook... so show us othet crushers and explain where you find or who is the artist of leather visor.

your are not expelled from one crook... everybody could get... but gor 6/7 crooks showed and made to fool by you or another artist.

**biohazard69** · 03-29-2013, 06:57 AM

Originally posted by NickG View Post

Yeah they don't talk to each other...a feud now...Dodgy items getting sold (under pressure?) which than get offered on the market by the other guy (Jarek) with even bigger profits...Those than get questioned and the dealer (Jarek) blaims the supplier (Arek) but in reality one is using the other as an outlet to sell? In other words they were in cahoots with each other??? but now claiming to be innocent? got fooled??
based on the below it also sound like Arek did not even want to sell these in the first place to the guy who is putting these on the market... (for bigger profit) See further...
I don't know...weird...It is all very fishy! One gets booted off WAF, the other pleads innocence and both claim they had been fooled???

Anyway Besslein (Arek) does communicate with me...
explaining in his attempt to defend himself the following to me today: (again I am just an intermediary!!!)
_____________________________________________

hey Nick
well all what i say is true,he has fooled me ,just simple ,he has played a friend ,................lesson taken.
about all of the items he has gotten from me ,he has always said that he wanted to keep these in his collection (but he doesn't have any collection) but instead was offering these the very next day on his web site with POR,all the auctions.

What i have sent you in my last email, these are all his! He told me in person about what he is doing,i was so stupid to talk with him after his fraud offers, but ,as i have written,he was a nice guy on the phone since years....
all in all i'm perhaps the first waf member that is expelled because of a crook.
warm regards
Arek

Im riding this and I cant believe!
Yes it is true that we was "friends" but Is it means you should cheat the friend?
Of course he dont want to sell it to me - he didnt sell it on e-stand, this is my mirage!
Cosmic paranoia!!!
I will be a good friend if I will never show this cap anybody?
Are you (Arek) stupid or drunk??
Arek is a victim - he sold me this cap and I ( bad guy) showed it on e-stand.
if you are so "saint" why your two telephones nmbrs closed
Why you didnt answer for main questions?
Only this bull****s about "frendship" ect..
Give me my money for fake,answer for my emails,pm's,phone calls or prove that this caps are original items!!

This emails from Arek-cheated thief, is shame for all polish users of this forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!

**jimt** · 03-29-2013, 08:40 AM

the facts

Get a Lawyer, its that simple ............

**biohazard69** · 03-29-2013, 08:57 AM

I have a lawyer,the case is under way...

but I cant read Arek's bull**** and lies.
and Waf it isn't an arena for settling this matter.

The court is...

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