StuG-beret

[Richard P]

Here is a cover that Paul Sack used to have. There are notable differences.

Richard

[Richard P]

Notice the hand stitched insignia, one piece spiral weave, pig tail, etc.

[madandi]

Of course i can see the difference. As i wrote to you in my mail, there is no reason to believe that someone has messed with this beret to fool any collector.
So what can be the reason that this top is different to the top that you showed us.
Can anyone show us a beret from 1941 of the same maker? I think that would help. Times changed during the war, something was made quite easylier than before. That´s my thoutghs.
So it would be nice to see some other Army-berets from 41.

And perhaps i should clear this:
It´s not mine, but i can have it. It´s not for sale.

[Richard P]

Andi,

I wish I could post one from each maker for you...but sadly I can't post any complete stug berets. I have a piece of an SS one, which some disparage, but never back up their opinions.

LINK: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...s+beret+skulls

If this type of beret tam existed I do believe someone would have seen one in the black beret variety, since they are much easier to find. I save all the period photos I ever come across of stug berets and they are obviously of the smooth wool variety....and not a rough open weave, and are not multi-piece, but made as a single piece. As are the black tams.

Is there perhaps a photo of your veteran with his beret in period wear?

Here are a few that I have saved.

Richard

PHOTO 1. This guy is wearing the beret tam only...no crash helmet.

PHOTO 2. Wearing the tam kind of high up on the helmet.

[Richard P]

Photo 1. The first soldier doesn't have the tam cover tucked in properly above the crash helmet rim.

PHOTO 2. This guy wears the experimental stug wrap.

[Richard P]

Here is one more and several in a group shot.

[madandi]

What a funny looking headgear!
I have no foto at the moment, but i will ask for.

[zbv500]

Richard, not sure if the cover you posted is realy a one piece spiral weave. I think I see a seam in your pic as well. Not sure if they can make a one piece spiral weave at all ?? How should it be wooven ?
Jens

[madandi]

I saw this seem too. But a spiralform can be woven. Ask your grandma, mam or wife if they can show you how to "Häkeln" Sorry for the german word, i don´t know how to translate. And i don´t know if this can be done by machines, but i guess of course yes.

[Richard P]

Richard, not sure if the cover you posted is realy a one piece spiral weave. I think I see a seam in your pic as well. Not sure if they can make a one piece spiral weave at all ?? How should it be wooven ?
Jens

zbv500 and Andi,

Thanks for pointing that out...I totally missed that...and yes it does look like a seam. I have examined my black berets and I can't seem to find a like-seam even when back lit. Maybe some others with interest can examine theirs and see if any can be found with that type of seam?

This gets more interesting all the time.

Richard

[madandi]

When you feel with your fingers you can find the seem. But only if there is one
Is it really hard to see, but there is a hard line, when you glit with your finger over the line.
As i stated before, there is no reason for me not to believe that it is authentic. Perhaps there is a second varation of production that we can point out here.
I still would be very (can´t find the word) happy to see other berets produced later in the war.

[MadJack]

http://www.oakleafmilitaria.com/1101h2.html

Not the same maker:

http://www.oakleafmilitaria.com/107h31.html

[madandi]

Carl Halfar is 1940, but can t read the other exactly. 1939? But if you take a look at the second, there is also a seam at two o clock.

[madandi]

In the description is written 1938. And circular weave! But i can see the seam

[Steve Sherlock]

Though the crash liner seem ok, I notice there are not the six rubber vent holes in it that one finds in the black crash liners. Is this typical for Stug liners?

Steve