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    LW M43 "light weight" - opinionse needed

    Hello Guys, I was been asked for posting my cap (actually on e-stand) for discussion on the forum...two potential buyers would like to hear your opinions...

    here is the link:

    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=574068

    thanks to all in advance

    ac
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    Last edited by alessio cammelli; 02-14-2012, 07:05 AM.
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    Original cap, textbook, obviously missing the seperate eagle and cockade.

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        Originally posted by Zauberflöte View Post
        ...obviously missing the seperate eagle and cockade.
        Original, however, I believe this style of hat is commonly found with a woven trapezoid insignia and Not a two piece configuration.

        B. N. Singer

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            trap

            Mr. Singer is correct, traps are a more common insignia on the light weight M 43. Take a look at the Luftwaffe M 43 Thread 'pinned' on this forum, it has quite a few 'light weight M 43's posted. Dave.

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              Originally posted by STUG III View Post
              Mr. Singer is correct, traps are a more common insignia on the light weight M 43. Take a look at the Luftwaffe M 43 Thread 'pinned' on this forum, it has quite a few 'light weight M 43's posted. Dave.
              Not necessarily; this example clearly never had a trapezoid but instead the seperate eagle and cockade as witnessed by the "ghost". In the thread you refer to you will actually also find at least one light weight M43 with the same original configuration (I know since it is mine ). But indeed it is correct that the trapezoid is more common to encounter.

              F.
              Last edited by Zauberflöte; 02-14-2012, 08:24 AM.

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                #8
                A good one

                Richard

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                  #9
                  This one need a nice LW cap eagle, and than...

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                    luft m43

                    I think your missing the point. The eagle that was sewn on this cap, in my opinion, that has left the 'shadow', was not original, to this original hat. It was clearly sewn through the liner, and how long ago? An eagle sewn through the liner on a stripped original hat is not unusual, question is, when? Not before 1945. It's a good cap just poorly, at one time, attached insignia to resell. Just my thoughts. Dave

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                      Originally posted by STUG III View Post
                      I think your missing the point. The eagle that was sewn on this cap, in my opinion, that has left the 'shadow', was not original, to this original hat. It was clearly sewn through the liner, and how long ago? An eagle sewn through the liner on a stripped original hat is not unusual, question is, when? Not before 1945. It's a good cap just poorly, at one time, attached insignia to resell. Just my thoughts. Dave
                      Hello guys...thanks a lot for your time and your knowledge....
                      about the eagle I stay with Dave, although the cap was already stripped when I got it...
                      the most important thing it is the cap is, indeed, an original lw M43...

                      thanks again for your help

                      Alessio

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                        Originally posted by STUG III View Post
                        I think your missing the point. The eagle that was sewn on this cap, in my opinion, that has left the 'shadow', was not original, to this original hat. It was clearly sewn through the liner, and how long ago? An eagle sewn through the liner on a stripped original hat is not unusual, question is, when? Not before 1945. It's a good cap just poorly, at one time, attached insignia to resell. Just my thoughts. Dave
                        I think we are partly on the same page Dave, of course is the eagle that at some point was sewn through the liner not the original one on this cap, still if I'm not mistaken, then I can clearly see a shadow of were once the eagle was attached and no evidence of a trapezoid?..But if Alessio who has the cap in hand claims not, then I'm perfectly okay with that as well of course.

                        Only thing I wanted to emphasize is that this combination is possible, although not common.
                        Herewith a unmessed example, the stitching has started to "float" due to wear.
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                          What a cap!!!

                          Thanks for sharing...super example of not trapezoid insigna on a light weight m43

                          Alessio
                          Last edited by alessio cammelli; 02-14-2012, 04:44 PM.

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                            Originally posted by Zauberflöte View Post
                            ...Only thing I wanted to emphasize is that this combination is possible, although not common.
                            Herewith a unmessed example, the stitching has started to "float" due to wear.
                            Interesting; I think my preference will remain with the embroidered trapezoid configuration when it comes to this type of hat.

                            Perhaps no bearing whatsoever, but the wear on that eagle seems considerably greater when compared to the cockade (maybe just my monitor).

                            Thank you very much for posting your example.

                            B. N. Singer

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                              Originally posted by B. N. Singer View Post
                              Interesting; I think my preference will remain with the embroidered trapezoid configuration when it comes to this type of hat.

                              Perhaps no bearing whatsoever, but the wear on that eagle seems considerably greater when compared to the cockade (maybe just my monitor).

                              Thank you very much for posting your example.

                              B. N. Singer
                              You are most welcome!

                              I can assure you - as far as anyone can for 100% of course - that both insignia are originaly sewn and the liner has never been opened. The difference in wear is easily explained in the difference of materials used in the embroidery and the fact then when the cap is worn the cockade is partly hidden by the flaps. Something that can be seen in other caps as well.

                              F.
                              Last edited by Zauberflöte; 02-15-2012, 08:39 AM.

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