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    #31
    A close up of my M38
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      #32
      My Chaplain visor with violet.
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        #33
        Thanks Bob and Mike for your input,

        So we have some who think its Chaplain (besides the fact that no period picture exist of chaplains wearing EM style sidecaps) and others who think it's medical afterall. Guys, to be honest, I don't know it anymore. It's just very difficult for me to get the real color with my pre-war camera...It also depends what you use for lighting and how your screen-options are setup.

        Now, take a look at these later war medical shoulderstraps which I found in the closet (well, at least I hope they are medical ) !

        Compare them first with the pre-war NCO straps 1sweat:
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          #34
          everything together...
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            #35
            With Flash
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              #36
              Originally posted by Glenn McInnes View Post
              Here is a Pioneer soutache that has faded.


              Confused yet Jan?
              Glenn

              I'll stick to my leather first-aid pouches for sure!!
              'Arzt und Soldat'

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                #37
                Hello,

                It is all about lightening here, soutache and shoulderboards are all piped in medic blue. That piping does look more purple in some lightening, which many times have been taken advantage of sellers of caps purposed to be Chaplains.

                Lasse

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Lasse Kongo View Post
                  Hello,

                  It is all about lightening here, soutache and shoulderboards are all piped in medic blue. That piping does look more purple in some lightening, which many times have been taken advantage of sellers of caps purposed to be Chaplains.

                  Lasse
                  Lasse, I've heared these stories as well, but you cannot go around the obvious differences visible in the pictures in post # 33 & 34.

                  I'm willing to accept it's medical (more then you guys think), but you see clearly the differences in that picture,no?

                  Thanks to all of the members for taking the time helping me out!


                  Cheers

                  Jan
                  Last edited by Jan Beazaer; 04-19-2007, 08:54 AM.
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                    #39
                    now everybody understands why the german army got rid of the soutache in 1942, what a mess...

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by JPhilip View Post
                      now everybody understands why the german army got rid of the soutache in 1942, what a mess...

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                        #41
                        Originally posted by JPhilip View Post
                        now everybody understands why the german army got rid of the soutache in 1942, what a mess...
                        They also got rid of the violet piping running shoes for chaplains too. Notice the violet socks too. Bishop shoes had gold laces.
                        BTW, there are a number of threads on the color for chaplains.
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                          #42
                          I agree with Lasse Kongo. In my book its also medical! Chaplains were honerary officers who did not even wear shoulderboards and their staff most likely were verwaltungstruppen (administrative green waffenfarbe) is my theory. I doubt that religious purple ever was issued to non coms, never seen any clergy artifacts below officer's "rank". The flash an lack of natural light and aging (fading) perhaps is playing games with everybodies eyes, but I would love to see somebody proove me wrong, as I've never ever come acroos low ranking clergy artifacts! Nick.
                          Is natuurijk gewoon medisch hoor, precies wat je nodig hebt!!
                          Last edited by NickG; 04-18-2007, 03:29 PM.

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                            #43
                            Originally posted by Glenn McInnes View Post
                            Have a look behind the front flaps for the true soutache color. Not neberwerfer in my opinion.





                            Glenn


                            Sorry,i think i got confused about branches but i meant it looks like chaplain too(nothing to do with nebelwerfer colour of course)

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                              #44
                              I never thought I'd see my Chaplian Officer's M38 cap again... then Chap15 posted pictures of it!! How I miss that cap!!

                              It looks like you are taking good care of it Chap15, so I am glad for that. If you want to sell it back to me... you just let me know!

                              All the best - Mike Bollow

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                                #45
                                The cap is medical and the straps are most likely Reichsheer Truppensonderdienst missing the winged staff.

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