Couple Of Unknown Buckles Needing ID

[dcdefend]

If anyone can tell me what these two buckles are, I would appreciate it. I can't seem to find in any of my books. Here's the first.

[dcdefend]

Second Buckle for Id

Here's the second one.

[DaveG]

According to Bandau's book the brass buckle is for the Jugendbund der Deutschen Baptistengemeiden and the other I think is a Thuringen fire police variation.

I stand to be corrected.

Dave

[NortonI]

Hi, the first one is new to me, never saw this one before. Looks more like police to me than fire police. The police of Preussen had the same leafs.

The second one is, like Dave already said, from the Baptist youth movement.
BJB = Baptistischer Jugend Bund.

Both are Weimar period.

Thomas

[dcdefend]

Unknown buckle

Dave & Thomas,

Thanks for your quick replies. As to the first one, the tail doesn't look Thuringen. How about Bayern Forestry Em. See Angolia's book, pg. 507 (Bayern) and 508 (Thuringen). The hands and feet on my example are different, but the tail is the same.

John