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    Dr Franke & Co 1944 Heer Buckle‏

    I have been putting my Heer examples together and found what I believe is a good catch.

    The condition is not the best but for the year 1944 I am not too bothered.

    It still has some decent field gray paint in places. I have looked but have not found any 1944 marked examples.

    All comments welcome and please post any 44 dated examples. Thank you
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        IMO, you have a very rare 1944 buckle. The stamping of the Dr. Frank and Co is correct and the first I have seen from 1944. Was this a ground find or a water find? My guess is this was produced early in 1944 before the combined Allied bombings over the industrial cities of Germany. Of all the buckles I have in my collection I do not have a 1944 marking - at least I don't think I have one. You have a definite keeper.

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          KC1 ,

          Thank you for your reply! It was almost covered with red rust I think from just some really poor storage. I picked it up at show and it was pretty ugly in the riker mount, The condition is probably what kept people from even looking at it.

          I have seen one other 44 example by LM 44, this company was somehow tied to Aurich with their heer flak badges and the late war buckles I have seen the configurations are the same just different marks.

          This one still has some field gray paint remaining. I can overlook the condition for that 1944 . Am hoping this generates some posts for others?

          Thanks again

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            Are you sure it is 1944 dated? It could be 1941 too...

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              The marking would be better if it was more clear for sure and 41 would correlate.

              In hand it is more visible .
              Last edited by Sammler; 02-14-2010, 01:35 PM.

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                This is a rotated shot posted earlier it may help demonstrate that. To make sure I wasn't grasping at straws I showed to a number of other collectors with my loop and it was a unanimous vote in their hands 44.
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                  following a private mail request for my opinion on this item , I confirm it is a good buckle; Not a fake;
                  As for the date, of course i do not have it in hands but i see no reason this buckle could not be a 44 dated one.
                  44 dates are scarce but not unheard of.... I used to have a few of them in my collection myself; included the same as the one posted here.
                  There exist 44 dated SS buckles to !

                  Marc

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                    #10
                    I have exact the same one with a 1941 marking, first i thought it was 44 dated to, but when you have a close look at it its a 41 marking for sure!
                    Nice buckle

                    Here's mine: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=411485

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                      #11
                      Fair enough ...I dont see the 1 or the 4 on yours?

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                        I know bad light on it, but there is a 41

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                          Late comer here. I had this buckle in my hand at the show when he got it, definitely 1944. Looks much better in hand!

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                            The number 4 is not writed the same way by americans and europeans.
                            Americans are using a "closed" 4 whereas european are using an "open" 4.

                            I am convinced that is one is dated 1941.

                            Marc, have you kept pictures of the buckles you had dated 1944? I am interested to see the Heer, LW or KM ones. Thanks in advance.

                            Simon

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                              #15
                              Buckle is no doubt original and a typical Franke design buckle and as all have stated if 44 dated very rare and interesting buckle

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