Tiger I running again!

[merdock]

Hi,

It's pherhap's fortunate that my son has just passed out and left Bovington ,He made quiet a habit of crashing tank's during training mind you the C2 is a little better built i think. during his stay there he had the pleasure of private visit's and spent a lot of time in the ww2 german one's ,he once telephoned me to say he was inside the Jadgtiger just to make me sick
All the best Merdock

[cbo]

great pictures claus.i clicked on the link for munster and was suprised to see that they have a tiger I displayed with battle tracks,is it on loan from another museum? it looks like the one from sumaur.i read last year on another fourm that there was a tigerI that was abandoned by a lake at the end of the war and over the years sank completly under the mud.plans to dig it up are being blocked by a enviromental group.has anybody heard of this?
tony

The Tiger I currently at Munster is the one from Saumur. The story about the sunken Tiger seems to ring a bell, but there are so many stories around about "Tigers" found in lakes and woods - the stuff of urban legends. The one I'm thinking of referred to a lake in Germany were there was allegedly something at the bottom, rumour having it that it was a Tiger. I believe it when I see it

Claus,
What did that beast sound like!?! Did it have lots of track squeak and rattle? I bet you could sell CDs to all the guys who would want to hear a real Tiger II running!

Hell, I could sell that CD to myself
As you can imagine, the sound of an enviromentally unrestricted 23 liter V12 is quite something but as I recall it, there wasn't much squaking and rattling, rather more a loud rumble and shaking of the ground. A few years before the pictures were taken, I watched the Carrousel from the "paddock", i.e. the area where they park the tanks in between their performance in the arena. I was right behind their Panther when they fired it up - "pop, pop, pop" as the individual cylinders start to ignite, then an ear-drum busting roar as the whole ensemble kicked in - they should've put up a warning sign, I'm certain that you could loose a couple of years worth of hearing just by standing there. Once it settled down to a tick-over, it was not bad, but when they really stepped on it........OUCH!

You can hear a recording at

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products...er/tiger_1.htm

Go down to the small pictures of the Tiger II at Saumur and download the AVI-files - I dont think they do the Maybach full justice, but still, you get a good impression of the starting process and sound - even though the recording make it sound somewhat "tin-can" like.

Claus B

[Pascal H.]

Thanks Claus.
For our English speaking friends here is the same link in English http://www.tamiya.com/english/produc...er/tiger_1.htm.

Here is a picture of my 1/16 Tamiya Tiger I tank. Even for such a small model the sound is very impressive.

Pascal

[Steve in Florida]

[QUOTE=Steve in Florida]The cutaway Tiger II at the Patton museum is said to be running. Sucks that they cut it open (that wasn't too long ago either).


In the immortal words of Basil Faulty..."I'm so sorry, my wife has made a terrible mistake!" Thanks Greg. I read it somewhere and I mixed my readings. They did cut it a long, long time ago. They wouldn't do that sort of thing today. As far as it running, I really had my head up my you know what on that one. Where's the smiley for that one?

I would like to point out that I do know I'm talking about at least half the time.

[Greg]

[QUOTE=Steve in Florida]

The cutaway Tiger II at the Patton museum is said to be running. Sucks that they cut it open (that wasn't too long ago either).


In the immortal words of Basil Faulty..."I'm so sorry, my wife has made a terrible mistake!" Thanks Greg. I read it somewhere and I mixed my readings. They did cut it a long, long time ago. They wouldn't do that sort of thing today. As far as it running, I really had my head up my you know what on that one. Where's the smiley for that one?

I would like to point out that I do know I'm talking about at least half the time.

Hi Steve,
Hey bud, you da man, any body who carries around an MP-44 (among other fine weapons) knows what he's talking about in my book!

I've had a long relationship with 332 and the other Tigers of s.SS-PzAbt. 501. Here's me on top of 332 at Aberdeen in 1972. They had welded sheet metal over the cut outs by then, since it was outside.

Regards,
Greg

[Greg]

My wife and son with 332 after it had arrived at Knox in 1991. It had some wild paint jobs over the years (and dull ones like this one too), but it retained its correct turret number all that time.

Greg

[Greg]

Here is 332 being towed from the Boatwright Maintenance Facility at Knox to the Patton Museum in the spring of 1992, after refurbishment. Towing vehicle is an M88A1 armored recovery vehicle.

Greg

[Greg]

My son with 213, the only other remaining Tiger of Kampfgruppe Peiper, at the December 1944 Museum in La Gleize, Belgium. I guess not many American boys can say they've climbed on the only two surviving tanks of Kampfgruppe Peiper!

Greg

[atcase]

great pictures claus.i clicked on the link for munster and was suprised to see that they have a tiger I displayed with battle tracks,is it on loan from another museum? it looks like the one from sumaur.i read last year on another fourm that there was a tigerI that was abandoned by a lake at the end of the war and over the years sank completly under the mud.plans to dig it up are being blocked by a enviromental group.has anybody heard of this?


tony

Hi ,
i belive this was recovered by the team ay Samaur several years ago as part of one of their restorations (could be the tiger 1 project)

Ashley

[tony james]

hi ashley
i know that samaur pulled a panther (minus turrent)out of a lake in france in 1976 and restored it to running condition.the story that i read was on the axis history fourm and stated that it was a tiger and the lake was located in germany.could be just a story but it would be nice to see them find another.

tony

[Lloyd I.]

Panther in the lake

Here is a link to one of the real tanks in a lake stories. This Panther was recovered from a lake in Poland. There are also links on this site to various other lake or river recovered AFVs. All in all this is the best site on what you can find digging around. Remember the Zimmermitt covered Stug III at the Patton Musuem came from a bog in Russia. They arent just stories and all over Europe you have to bear in mind a great deal was simply bulldozed into craters or blown in place then buried.

The scrapers came afterwards. There is a Tiger I on display in France with a rumored two more buried beneath the existing road surface where they were bulldozed in. Here is a link where they uncovered among the battle debris a French vehicle. Look at how far down this is and think of what a crater could hold. http://www.lerenfort.fsnet.co.uk/page109.html


http://www.lerenfort.fsnet.co.uk/page102.html

http://www.lerenfort.fsnet.co.uk/page48.html

http://www.lerenfort.fsnet.co.uk/page25.html

[tony james]

Lloyd
its amazing what s being found over at the old battlefields today.i check
learnfort once a week so i don't miss anything.i know a guy that has a mark iv
that he got out of the middle east a couple of years ago and he has told me of some german armor that he knows about that is known only in certain circles.it
would be nice to be able to scour eastern battlefields looking for these old machines of war.


tony

[atcase]

Hi to all,
the return of Tankfest this yesr at Bovington camp on Sunday May 23 10am-5pm will include (hopefully) an appearence by thr Tiger 1 along with nearly 40 other vehicles from the vehicles collection at Bovington camp near wool in Dorset.

See thier Website for more info.

Ashley