Another T34 from Russia

[dect]

http://www.pln-pskov.ru/photo/photoreport/41184.html

[besslein]

super condition this one

[IanC]

Thanks for the pictures, do you know any more about it and how it ended up there?

Cheers

Ian

[dect]

Thanks for the pictures, do you know any more about it and how it ended up there?

Cheers

Ian

Sorry, nothing more... so far Enjoy a clip from the recovery http://www.xlegio.ru/ildar/t34-tank.mpg

[PanzerJohn]

Fingers crossed it's only a matter of time before a Tiger rises from the depths!.

[Jack T]

Bablefish translation of the article-

In the tank T -34, raised from the bottom Of the selivanovskyyo lake (Velikie Luki region), the remains of crew, documents and personal effect it is not discovered. On this reported to the Pskov tape of news the commander of scouting force "boundary" from The pustoshkinskeyeo region Mikhail Romanov.
Only, what is sufficient in the tank, this of projectiles. Prospectors extracted 74 ammunition even 15 grenades. According to, Mikhail Romanov, work on the inspection of tank at the given moment thus far they continue, however, which will be further with the tank, until it is unknown. To the singular solution it will be located in Velikie Luki.
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According to the existing information on the bottom Of the selivanovskyyo lake are located Soviet gun, aircraft and German tank. However, in what they state do exist generally, to say difficultly. Soon prospectors together with the provincial committee on youth policy and sport will explain this question.<o></o>
Let us recall that from the bottom Of the selivanovskyyo lake in the Velikie Luki region of the Pskov province the tank T -34, which sank in the years of World War II was raised yesterday, on 3 May. Combat vehicle sank in 90 meters from the coast at depth 12 it was meter, of which one meter - this is water, and rest 11 - peat.

[Nico C]

Thanks for the translation, Jack and indeed, the tank is in a wonderfull condition.


Best,

[behblc]

Tiger from the depths.

A few years ago After The Battle carried an article on the recovery of a "Panther" from a water in France.
The turret had been removed post war by scrap men before the area flooded and the body of the tank was forgotten.
French army divers and staff from the Saumur Tank Museum located and recoveed the body of the tank to their care in the 1980's.

Who knows what is in isolated and forgotten Russian bogs and lakes , for the moment they are safe.

[r_hufschmied]

A few years ago After The Battle carried an article on the recovery of a "Panther" from a water in France.
The turret had been removed post war by scrap men before the area flooded and the body of the tank was forgotten.
French army divers and staff from the Saumur Tank Museum located and recoveed the body of the tank to their care in the 1980's.

Who knows what is in isolated and forgotten Russian bogs and lakes , for the moment they are safe.

My bet is on eastern Europe (Belorus, Ukraine, Poland and The Baltics). The Germans were initially really careful in operating their heavy tanks, keeping them off the wetlands and bogs. But during the last months of the war when they were mostly retreating in a haste (read: running for their lives) such consideration was out the door. There is also evidence that some tanks were scuttled intentionally by the means of sinking them. In Russia you'll still find Stug's and Pz III's and IV's, for the heavies (Tiger I and II's, Panther and Jagdpanther) my feeling is you'll have to look closer to central Europe. Kalliningrad (K******246;ningsberg) is interesting as it has been pretty much a closed enclave since the end of the war. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are interesting as well as they have plenty of the marsh/bog terrain and saw some of the fiercest fighting. Poland is heavily surveyed and all kinds of armor is salvaged annually.

I have no doubt we'll see plenty more both Soviet and German armor recovered from the lakes, rivers and bogs of eastern Europe.

[IanC]

Sorry, nothing more... so far Enjoy a clip from the recovery http://www.xlegio.ru/ildar/t34-tank.mpg

Thanks for the link!

Cheers

Ian

[SurvivingPanzer]

Seeing the turret and wheels move on that thing is amazing. Great video.

[dect]

Some more info from the movie:

"This came out of lake Selivanovskoe in Pskov. Pskovskaya Oblast, Velikolukskiy Raion. Kind of beside Moscow.
The guy said that records showed 6 T-34's in this area and the comander is still alive and told of ditching the tanks in the lake in '43. This tank was 12 meters below the water and 11 meters in the mud. Records also show 15 German tanks in the area."

My bet is on eastern Europe (Belorus, Ukraine, Poland and The Baltics). The Germans were initially really careful in operating their heavy tanks, keeping them off the wetlands and bogs. But during the last months of the war when they were mostly retreating in a haste (read: running for their lives) such consideration was out the door. There is also evidence that some tanks were scuttled intentionally by the means of sinking them. In Russia you'll still find Stug's and Pz III's and IV's, for the heavies (Tiger I and II's, Panther and Jagdpanther) my feeling is you'll have to look closer to central Europe. Kalliningrad (Köningsberg) is interesting as it has been pretty much a closed enclave since the end of the war. Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania are interesting as well as they have plenty of the marsh/bog terrain and saw some of the fiercest fighting. Poland is heavily surveyed and all kinds of armor is salvaged annually.

I have no doubt we'll see plenty more both Soviet and German armor recovered from the lakes, rivers and bogs of eastern Europe.

As you perhaps know one of Littlefield Panthers came from Poland I hope we have still some more to discover.

Regards
Jacek

[r_hufschmied]

Some more info from the movie:

"This came out of lake Selivanovskoe in Pskov. Pskovskaya Oblast, Velikolukskiy Raion. Kind of beside Moscow.
The guy said that records showed 6 T-34's in this area and the comander is still alive and told of ditching the tanks in the lake in '43. This tank was 12 meters below the water and 11 meters in the mud. Records also show 15 German tanks in the area."

Correct me if I'm wrong but from my understanding it was 1 meter of water and 11 of peat, 12 meters total.

As you perhaps know one of Littlefield Panthers came from Poland I hope we have still some more to discover.

Regards
Jacek

Yes, that Czarna Nida Panther is well known and documented. I have no doubt there's more to be found in Poland.

[dect]

Correct me if I'm wrong but from my understanding it was 1 meter of water and 11 of peat, 12 meters total.

I think you're right - I can't even imagine pulling out the tank from 11 meters below the bottom

Yes, that Czarna Nida Panther is well known and documented. I have no doubt there's more to be found in Poland.

I hope so. Note this as an example http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=184428

But to be honest this part

"Records also show 15 German tanks in the area."

is much more interesting. I'm sure that Russia will keep surprising us quite often in the upcoming years. I'll stay tuned and keep you informed

Regards
Jacek