Reproduction SdKfz 222/223

[Panzerknacker12]

Maybe it will be easier to put the pictures of it on my photobucket, then all can access it. Give me a few more days to get it completed.

[napesica]

Reproduction SdKfz 222/223

Danke sehr viel !

Maybe it will be easier to put the pictures of it on my photobucket, then all can access it. Give me a few more days to get it completed.

[napesica]

MG 42 mounted in a 222

Here is one pic showing a 42 mounted within a 222. I know of a few more too and will try and locate them as well. It is no surprise that later war photos of 222s showing a 42 are hard to find. When you take into consideration that all private cameras and photos were banned in 43 and the fact that by late 43/44 many of the 222s were just rusting blown up heaps of scrap metal.
They were officially authorized to mount 42s within the 222s and I dont know why any vehicle or AufkAbt commander woudl not do so given the opportunity.

Will do Kamerad,,,,I have seen several and will get them posted in a few days. Seems like I also have seen copy of the directive authorizing their use and upgrade from the 34. Will try and find that as well.
N

[napesica]

MG 42 in a 222

Here's another one......

Here is one pic showing a 42 mounted within a 222. I know of a few more too and will try and locate them as well. It is no surprise that later war photos of 222s showing a 42 are hard to find. When you take into consideration that all private cameras and photos were banned in 43 and the fact that by late 43/44 many of the 222s were just rusting blown up heaps of scrap metal.
They were officially authorized to mount 42s within the 222s and I dont know why any vehicle or AufkAbt commander woudl not do so given the opportunity.

[Panzerknacker12]

Cool photos. The first is not a 222, but a SDKFZ 234/1 (8 wheel armored car)with the six sided turret which is 30mm thick at the front, and the front visor is a thicker type so that the entire front of the vehicle was proof against 2cm AP rounds.

The second looks like the 222 turret for sure, with the earlier low screens which is interesting. I wish I could see the mount.

[napesica]

Reproduction SdKfz 222/223

I thought so too perhaps when noticing how thick the armor was on the turret. I do have 2 other very obvious 222 pics with 42s mounted in them. I will find them and post ASAP.
Thanks again for your help and input,N

Cool photos. The first is not a 222, but a SDKFZ 234/1 (8 wheel armored car)with the six sided turret which is 30mm thick at the front, and the front visor is a thicker type so that the entire front of the vehicle was proof against 2cm AP rounds.

The second looks like the 222 turret for sure, with the earlier low screens which is interesting. I wish I could see the mount.

[napesica]

Reproduction SdKfz 222/223 screens

Would you happen to have any decent pics of the bars that were used to hold up the grenade screens? None of the ones I have clearly show it. Thanks

[tchuse]

i have those pics and will pass them to you

[chucky555]

There is only one dead on correct reproduction 222, and it was built by two guys here in CA ( 21 PZ and 2nd FJD). It was in the film Valkyrie. All the measurements were taken off of Littlefields original 222 when it was being restored, and all the components were seperate, including the armor. I have seen the others, and they are not correct in regards to angles, sizes of the plates, etc. If you want to make a dead on reproduction, you should go to either the patton museum or visit Littlefields museum ( best ). If you compare photos of the original to the other reproductions, you will see the differences. It escapes me why the gentleman who made a few, didnt copy Littlefields?

The originals also had 18" wheels, which ive only seen on the CA reproduction. The correct tires are available from Lehar in CZ. Where you find 18" correct wheels now, ???

Also, in regards to "Oscha. Norberts 222", could you provide some original photos of the MG42 anti-aircraft ( ? ) mount seen at camp roberts? I cant seem to find any, or MG-42's mounted on 222's either? Not an attack, just that my reference is evidently limited on this vehicle. Thank you.

If you ever find somebody that sells, or can make the original style rims, please let us know. From my limited research, they don't seem to exist.

[Mat Holloway]

If you ever find somebody that sells, or can make the original style rims, please let us know. From my limited research, they don't seem to exist.

I'd also be interested in a set as well

[chucky555]

The originals also had 18" wheels, which ive only seen on the CA reproduction. The correct tires are available from Lehar in CZ. Where you find 18" correct wheels now, ???

Can you provide my with exact wheel specs for the 18" wheels. I have access to a machine shop that can build them for me at cost. All I have to go off of now is grainy B&W pictures. What are the tire sizes as well?

[Max Schmidt]

From memory, the wheels are 18" X 7", but I don't know the offset.
Tyres are 210 X 18.

[napesica]

Reproduction SdKfz 222/223

Hey, just wanted to thank you for the British Army report of 1943 on the SdKfz 222and all of the technical info therein, you gave me this past weekend .
I have thought all along that the one I have that Mike Scholer made was pretty close to being an accurate size, but this report helps prove it with real data. After reading the report you gave me I had to measure mine and compare it to this documented example.

As you know it is an on-going process of improving the many things necessary to make these vehicles accurate representations of the originals and I still have more to do on mine.
Here are the actual measurements of mine compared to the British Army report(Preliminary Report No.8 German 4-Wheeled Armoured Car (Sd.Kfz.222) Februaray 1943).
The height measurement on the reproduction is based on the current 20" tires. Of course original WWII 222 had 18"(US size) tires. The 20" tires therefore add 1" to the overall height.

Height not including grenade cage -original =5'11.5" ....reproduction=6'2"
Overall length including tow hooks-original =15'7" ....reproduction=15'6"
Center of tire to opposite tire center-original =5'5" ....reproduction=5'5"
Outside of rear fender to opposite outside rear fender
-original =6'6.5" ....reproduction=6'4"

Thanks again !

Maybe it will be easier to put the pictures of it on my photobucket, then all can access it. Give me a few more days to get it completed.

[222R]

How do I get a copy of the British Army report of 1943 on the SdKfz 222? Thanks HArry

[napesica]

Reproduction SdKfz 222/223

Hello , Since Panzerknacker12 was nice enough to give me a copy I can make one for you with his permission. Let's wait for his reply before I send though. Thanks.

How do I get a copy of the British Army report of 1943 on the SdKfz 222? Thanks HArry