20th of July Wound Badge holders gallery!

[merdock]

Hi,
Just been looking at this thread and the new thread regarding the discovery of the wound badge, mine also displays the same flaw on the left reef .

[Norm F]

Hi merdock,

Could you please show the reverse of your badge as well?

Best regards,
---Norm

[merdock]

Hi,
Here is the rear miss struck 2 but its the same design as the other 800/2 ones ,the one attributed to Jodl also has a miss struck 2, the hook is almost the same bottom a little longer ,the Russian ones also display different hooks, as they were hand finished I assume that there are slight differences in the hardware attachment,
my front view is not the best photo will take another.
mark

[Norm F]

Hi Mark,

That one's a bit puzzling. Here are some comparisons to other "2" marked examples.

First, a typical black and a gold which share identical features, hardware and markings to one another.

Second, a comparison of your gold to the "standard" gold. It looks like a different mark, not just a mis-strike of the same mark, especially the "800". Your badge appears slightly narrower overall and has a softer surface texture. Finally, the hardware is a little different on yours - the hinge has different proportions with a narrower centre barrel and the main pin is flatter with sharper margins.

Could you also show a closeup of the catch? And perhaps some photos of the one attributed to Jodl that you mentioned?

Best regards,
---Norm

[Norm F]

Here's the obverse comparison. Again, a softer surface texture and slightly less crisp date and signature. And in all the other gold badges that we've seen posted, the signature and date were also gilt and burnished whereas on yours they're silver.

Best regards,
---Norm

[jujuy]

For the first time, I'll be going to a die copy, not a badge die casted copy, from an original one.
Why, the badges are identical, same detail, everything is correct, but thinner, less detailled and not crispy

[Norm F]

For the first time, I'll be going to a die copy, not a badge die casted copy, from an original one.
Why, the badges are identical, same detail, everything is correct, but thinner, less detailled and not crispy

But not everything is correct - hardware not quite right, mark is different, slightly concave reverse.

A quality casting in silver could still show the same detail. Here’s an example of a cast reproduction in silver of a standard Schwerin U-Boat badge from the Ailsby blog (with diamonds installed to imitate a U-Boat in Diamonds). An excellent replica but with softer detail. Even the hinge and main pin were reproduced, but still a casting of a regular Schwerin U-Boat, not a genuine U-Boat with Diamonds. Just shows you what’s possible to see when it comes to high-end reproductions.

Best regards,
—-Norm

(Hopefully this thread can get back to Sepp’s original intent as a gallery of 20th of July wound badge holders.)

[Norm F]

Hi,
Here is the rear miss struck 2 but its the same design as the other 800/2 ones ,the one attributed to Jodl also has a miss struck 2

Here’s the Jodl-attributed badge from post #66 of this thread. This one has an “L/12” mark, not a “2” mark.

Best regards,
—-Norm

[merdock]

Hope these are better

[merdock]

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[Norm F]

Hi Mark,

Here are some hardware comparisons with yours.

Best regards,
---Norm

[Stan]

According to Nimmergut, Juncker supplied "2" marked pieces to the Wehrmacht and "L/12" marked pieces to LDO medal shops for private purchase. This means that "2" marked pieces are the officially awarded pieces.

Others speculate that each recipient received two examples - one marked "2" and one marked "L/12".

It has been stated that both Warlimont and Jodl had "L/12" marked pieces and the piece in my collection has a pin which has been bent to make it a tighter fit so has almost certainly been worn on a uniform.

I would therefore also speculate that as recipients would have had more than one uniform they would have either ordered extra L/12 marked pieces or have received more that one award.


Stan

[jujuy]

I was not speaking of the hardware
But you're right

But not everything is correct - hardware not quite right, mark is different, slightly concave reverse.

A quality casting in silver could still show the same detail. Here’s an example of a cast reproduction in silver of a standard Schwerin U-Boat badge from the Ailsby blog (with diamonds installed to imitate a U-Boat in Diamonds). An excellent replica but with softer detail. Even the hinge and main pin were reproduced, but still a casting of a regular Schwerin U-Boat, not a genuine U-Boat with Diamonds. Just shows you what’s possible to see when it comes to high-end reproductions.

Best regards,
—-Norm

(Hopefully this thread can get back to Sepp’s original intent as a gallery of 20th of July wound badge holders.)

[Norm F]

According to Nimmergut, Juncker supplied "2" marked pieces to the Wehrmacht and "L/12" marked pieces to LDO medal shops for private purchase. This means that "2" marked pieces are the officially awarded pieces.

Others speculate that each recipient received two examples - one marked "2" and one marked "L/12".

It has been stated that both Warlimont and Jodl had "L/12" marked pieces and the piece in my collection has a pin which has been bent to make it a tighter fit so has almost certainly been worn on a uniform.

I would therefore also speculate that as recipients would have had more than one uniform they would have either ordered extra L/12 marked pieces or have received more that one award.


Stan

Also, if Schmundt’s gold wound badge is original to the grouping with the case and document (as it seems to be), and that was an “L/12” badge, one might speculate that the L/12 badges were also awarded since it seem’s less likely for someone who ultimately died of his wounds to buy an extra badge in an LDO shop?

Best regards,
—-Norm

[Stan]

You are absolutely right Norm- Schmund did receive the Gold award marked L/12 together with a citation for the Gold grade.

Actually, it was Klietmann who wrote in his book that all recipients had received two awards, one marked "2" and one marked "L/12".

Stan