Unmarked BWB

[Hans N]

Have anyone seen this type of unmarked BWB before and can id it? This is a test to see who nails it

[Hans N]

reverse of the lovely badge in question

[fugpaw]

It looks like one of those "lovely" new fakes that have recently appeared eminating from Germany.

Mike

[jayhawkhenry]

Mike, could you give some pointers on how best to spot a beat up/aged fake? I generally look for wear patterns and the appearance of rust (light or dark coloring) etc. But I know some fakers are wise to that.
Thanks,
Henry

[fugpaw]

Mike, could you give some pointers on how best to spot a beat up/aged fake? I generally look for wear patterns and the appearance of rust (light or dark coloring) etc. But I know some fakers are wise to that.
Thanks,
Henry

If the BWB is one of these fakes (which I believe it is), then they can be spotted by:

- flaking paint

- when in hand there is a distinct smell to them (no it's not my smelly hands!)

- the ageing is all wrong; the "rusting" is not the type you would see from a long period of oxidisation, the strange white/grey powdering effect is not what you would expect

- these BWB's in particular feel wrong - I can't exactly expplain this - but when in hand they just do not feel right

- the details of the BWB are soft.

I recently purchased 5 of these BWBs (for £5 for the lot) for research purposes. The person who was selling them would not tell me where he got them but was selling them as 21st century reproductions.

Mike

[fugpaw]

If anyone wants one of these fakes for research purposes then please let me know by PM.

Mike

[Hans N]

Hi Mike,

your correct of course. It´s one of those new german fakes. These start to get out internationally, i saw them on a english dealer site in mass. I didn´t count them but i think i saw close to 10 of them.

[don]

I see that a few collectors will get burnt on this one. Any pictures
of one without the fake ageing.
don

[Hans N]

Hi Don,

i have not so far seen any in "mint" condition. All have had the fake ageing.

[fugpaw]

Don, all the ones I have encountered have some form of faked ageing, the one posted by Hans is one of the more extreme examples I have seen.

Mike

[don]

Guys,if you could ever get me one please send a note.Would like to see one and have one for the collection.We are talking a RESEARCH Tool and
learning aid.
Thanks
don

[don]

Hans....Would you get upset if I copy the pictures.
I could use pictures of this fake for learning and teaching
tool.
Thanks
don

[Hans N]

Hi Don,

feel free to do so. We need to educate and inform others about the fakes in the War against the fakers.

[don]

Thanks,Hans.
don