golden NSDAP badge...???

[Luc]

I need advice on those two badges from the NSDAP.
- The golden NSDAP badge has a repaired pin. On the back there is noted:
A.H. 30.01.39
- the membership NSDAP badge has followed text on the back:
Assmann & Söhne RZM 17 Ges. Gesch.

Are they original ? This is a vets purchase, but I know that a lot of them bought those items after the war..

thanks for your opinions.

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[J Temple-West]

Luc, have a look at the link and I think you'll find that the 'Golden Party badge' is a fake.. The 'Assmann' party badge looks to be ok..


http://www.geocities.com/goldpartypin/index.html

[Mike Pinkus]

i agree...the Assmann party pin is quite nice.
mike

Luc, have a look at the link and I think you'll find that the 'Golden Party badge' is a fake.. The 'Assmann' party badge looks to be ok..


http://www.geocities.com/goldpartypin/index.html

[Luc]

John and Mike


thanks for your opinions.
What can be the reason of the nr 17 marked in the badge?
Is this a rare fabrication or not, and what would be a fair price for this badge?

thanks

[John Pepera]

Golden NSDAP Badge

Gold Party Badge is an absolute reproduction.

John Pepera

[Laurence Strong]

Gold Party

[James Noble]

John and Mike


thanks for your opinions.
What can be the reason of the nr 17 marked in the badge?
Is this a rare fabrication or not, and what would be a fair price for this badge?

thanks

Luc, The nr.17 is the RZM reference number for Assmann & Söhne. To have both GES. GESCH. and a RZM mark puts this badge circa 1935 being thats when the RZM board took control of the quality and rules of manufacturing for the NSDAP and the use of Ges. Gesch. mark was being phased out.

[J Temple-West]

John and Mike


thanks for your opinions.
What can be the reason of the nr 17 marked in the badge?
Is this a rare fabrication or not, and what would be a fair price for this badge?

thanks

Luc, the '17' is the makers number. Normally when a badge is 'RZM' marked the makers number has the 'RZM' prefix M1/ but the fact that this badge has the full maker name, 'RZM' mark and the pre 'RZM' maker number leads me to think that its a transitional piece, later examples would be marked M1/17 for 'Assmann' have the 'RZM stamp but not the maker name..

Value? I'm not up on prices on these badges but would think €50-60 would be about right..

[J Temple-West]

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[Pieter Verbruggen]

...The Assmann pin is very early and not often seen. These party pins were made by millions but you may consider this one as a rarer one.
A must for the Party Pin collector....
Pieter.

[Mike Dunn]

I have a question about the Assman party badge. From what I have read in books and in the party badge thread, if there is a large gap between the L-S it is a sign of a reproduction. The badge pictured in this thread has that space commonly discussed. What makes this one different from the reproductions? Thanks in advance. Mike