two pins, fake or real???

[Don D.]

I have these two pins that I think are fake but not 100% sure. Comments are welcome.
Thanks
Don


#1 HJ pin

[Don D.]

Reverse. Notice the spelling GSF GESCH???

[Don D.]

another

[Don D.]

#2 a party pin of some sort

[Don D.]

reverse

[Rendsburg]

Have you better photos? In a first look, I think is fake too.

[Mike Pinkus]

Don

at first look i do not like the stick pin ...it reminds me of a fake pin back i have seen that was supposedly a 70's fantasy.....i cant fault the HJ pin ....what are your concerns with it?
maybe a better picture...
mike

I have these two pins that I think are fake but not 100% sure. Comments are welcome.
Thanks
Don


#1 HJ pin

[DanCz]

Personally I am extremely wary indeed of all such badges maker marked OTTO HOFFMAN.

When I first started to collect in the late 1960's I called into a collectors shop in Lincoln (England) ----- on offer were several score of these diamonds - - - in red, blue, yellow, green. Just too many to be true in my humble opinion - - I may be mistaken but I would take some persuading before I bought an example with this MM.

[Don D.]

Hi Mike. My concern is the marking GFS GESCH. Shouldn't it be GES???

Don

Don

at first look i do not like the stick pin ...it reminds me of a fake pin back i have seen that was supposedly a 70's fantasy.....i cant fault the HJ pin ....what are your concerns with it?
maybe a better picture...
mike

[DanCz]

Well spotted Don !!

[jray2986]

Both look like fakes

[Raym']

Ya.......I dont like the look of either one