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**eastlandb1** · 02-09-2011, 11:22 PM

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**718design** · 02-10-2011, 12:32 AM

Fake

**Peppe864** · 02-10-2011, 03:34 AM

not original.......

**Jon. H** · 02-10-2011, 04:00 AM

Fantasy. They never looked like this.

**eastlandb1** · 02-10-2011, 07:42 AM

Thanks all. Robert

**Wim Vangossum** · 02-10-2011, 02:04 PM

Hi Robert,

The original SS pin was called SS-Zivilabzeichen. It was much smaller in size, with silvered runes instead of white enamel. Always in the form of a stickpin and never with an RZM code. Two manufacturers: Ferdinand Hoffstätter en Otto Gahr.

Regards, Wim

**eastlandb1** · 02-10-2011, 02:26 PM

Lots of great information. Thanks, Robert

**Gerdan** · 02-10-2011, 04:46 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Zivilabzeichen

http://beck-militaria.de/index.php?a...SDAP+(SS).html

http://www.thirdreicharts.com/data/i...ck+Pin+)+-Gahr

Gerdan

**Wim Vangossum** · 02-11-2011, 02:19 PM

Hi Gerdan,

Be carefull with a link to Beck. The SS zivilabzeichen offered over there is a fake. Like most of his SS enamel stuff I'm afraight. He did a much better job a few years ago when he offered many good enamel stuff. What's going on there at this moment is sometimes crazy.

Regards, Wim

**James Noble** · 02-11-2011, 02:32 PM

Take a look at the one posted by Karl-Heinz , thread entitled SS Tinnie to see what one should look like.

**Military** · 02-11-2011, 07:20 PM

Theo's correct for those SS pins - never with an RZM code.

Mil

**Wim Vangossum** · 02-12-2011, 04:21 AM

Originally posted by Military View Post

Theo's correct for those SS pins - never with an RZM code.

Mil

And I forgot: also NEVER without any marks!

Regards, Wim

**STRADALE** · 02-14-2011, 03:12 PM

Great forum.

Good info. So based on your responses to the poster that started this thread, the pin I was going to ask about is fake too. Which would leave me to believe that the other 2 pins I have are also fakes but could someone confirm based on the pics below??

The good news is I think I have found a brand new hobby. Just ordered some reference books to educate myself first before I start buying anything.

Thanks in advance.

Here's the pins (guessing they're fakes):

Can anyone tell me what this is?????

**Carson** · 02-14-2011, 04:06 PM

The three with the "clipped" pins would not be in my collection.

I can't speak on the NSKK, but it looks to be modern enamel work. Would help if we could see the back of it as well.

Hope you don't have a lot into these. Investment in time in the forums is priceless when it comes to collecting.

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