HJ KAMPFSPIELE badge tinnies 1942 good ?

[portraithunter]

Hello Guys

can your help with this badge ?
It´s all ok ?

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2. back side

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3. back side

[TobyR]

I'm sorry but personally, I don't like it. It has the same construction as the 1942 Jugendemeister badges (1st place version of your badge) that occasionally crop up with a painted blue, as opposed to pebbled enamel ground (as found on originals). As with your badge, these badges lack the quality of the original badges and look rather flat in comparison.

Also, given the limited number of these awards that would have been made, I see no reason why there would be two distinct types, i.e. badges by two different makers. Furthermore, badges that are sub-standard when compared to the undoubted originals. That your badge bears the Souval mark in addition to a worrying RZM mark (given the absence of any manufacturer's code) is for me, a further nail in the coffin of this variant.

I discuss the badges from this series, in greater depth, in my Military Advisor article of Winter 2005/06.

Below is a photo of a genuine Kampfspiele 1942 badge.

Best regards,
Toby.

[portraithunter]

Hello Toby
and many thanks

The blue varnished centre has also surprised me. Also the explanation with 2 manufacturers makes sense to me. And my healthy eyes let me see the differences to your shown piece.

Even if it is to be seen not good in the pictures. If I show a silver version and the Tragespuren and patina are perfect.

I have got this piece privately from a family, in a person an image you did not have what there, actually offer.


thanks and best regards René

[portraithunter]

Hi Toby

i have found this photo. This version is around closesd.
But unfortunately can i not see the backside

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and the zoom

[TobyR]

Hi René,

Sorry I'm so slow in replying. I haven't been near a pc much over the holiday period.

I am a little confused. Do you mean you bought the badge above from a private household? With provenance? Or do you have a silver version too, with provenance?

Nice photo you post. Very hard to find photos of these badges in-wear.

Are you sure there is no dip on the badge? Perhaps the angle of the badge in the photo, makes it hard to see?

Best regards,
Toby.

[portraithunter]

Hello Toby

Yes i have a silver pices, and i have it from a privat household.
But i am not a expert and can it not say realy.