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    Help and opinions..please!

    Hello all,
    well, here's my first post in the "Tinnie" forum, so please...be gentle
    I've attached some images of a couple of items i've had for a while, which i've learned in the years since they were bought have been reproduced to various degrees of success
    Another thing that i found unusual on one of the badges, is that it carries an RZM mark on the reverse (the SA badge). Is this an accepted practice?
    Would this then confer an official status for what was in essence a disposable item....or is it just a fakers frenzied stamping to add authenticity to a bogus piece?
    Enough of my ramblings, on with the pics!

    All comments welcomed,
    thanks for your time,

    Patrick.
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    The backs..

    Here's the reverse of the HJ badge.
    I may add that this one in particular has always concerned me.
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      #3
      The backs..part two.

      Here's the pin on the 1933 rally badge
      (another badge that now scares me..)
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        The backs part three...

        Here's the back of the "Gau Essen" badge.
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          #5
          The last.

          And finally..the RZM stamped SA badge.
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            #6
            Patrick, I don't see any problem with the Gau Essen and SA pins while I personally would have passed on the DJ and NSDAP pins
            Last edited by James Noble; 03-10-2003, 03:44 PM.

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              #7
              I would have to agree with James on this one. Nice SA tinnie! Mike

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                #8
                Thanks.

                Hello James and Mike,
                thanks for the response, the suspect tinnies are now consigned to my "Fakes"box.
                Thanks for the help,

                Patrick.

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                  #9
                  FAKE HJ

                  Hello,

                  I echo what Jnoble said,Ive seen alot of these FAKE HJ tinnies ,I had pictures posted (i think they are still up if not ill post them again)in this forum a page or 2 back under the heading FAKE tinnies-the crude metal casting are a dead give away-you would think someone could make a nicer fake-maybe its not worth it financially to make them that well.

                  Yancy

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                    #10
                    Patrick, I found this piture of an original HJ I thought I would post it so you can see what the back should look like.
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