Need help with 25 year NSDAP medal

[RonR]

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[Ron Weinand]

25 Yr. Cross

Mine, also, has the flaw to the left wing and is a heavy version with unmarked ring. I have had this for years and have always felt it was an original.

[Stan]

25-Yr NSDAP Crosses

Ron,

All the major dealers agree that the heavy versions are indeed original but collectors prefer the thinner "19" (Deumer) marked pieces.

A collector has a heavy version 15-Yr with the left wing flaw which is mm'd but he can't read the number It is thought to be "30" for Hauptmünzamt Wien.

Stan

[Stan]

25-Yr NSDAP Crosses

Great-looking 25-Yr Cross you have there Ron

Stan

[Ian Hulley]

I know it's an old thread now but still a very valuable one. Here are a few shots of my 25 year cross acquired last weekend. it is '19' marked Deumer 3 piece award ...



reverse ..



detail .. there looks to have been a failed punch mark also on the ring that missed and slipped off into the hole.







It came without a ribbon so it can't help on that subject.

Ian

[Max_Porter]

Ian,

congrats, that´s a nice one with little wear.

One of my most favourite awards, wonderful!


Best Regards

Max_Porter

[Stan]

Nice cross Ian. You just need to find an original ribbon now.

Stan

[der-hase-fee]

Great to see an original for a change.

[Thomas Bendixen]

Hi everyone

Was lucky to grab this beautifull Wiedmann piece, notice the downsized ring which suggest that this was once part of an amazing medalbar.

Please PM me if you have an original 20 cm. long 25 mm wide ribbon for sale!

Cheers Thomas

[Stan]

Hi Thomas,

Great to see that Deumer even stamped "19" on the small rings which as you say, were almost definitely made for ribbon bars or mounts as shown in post #61

Stan

[Ron Weinand]

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[Brian S]

Did any more info come in on the "Stan" piece that started this thread which is the same as Ron's and my 25 year cross?

[der-hase-fee]

Currently offered for sale:

[JoeW]

Hi everyone

Was lucky to grab this beautifull Wiedmann piece, notice the downsized ring which suggest that this was once part of an amazing medalbar.

Please PM me if you have an original 20 cm. long 25 mm wide ribbon for sale!

Cheers Thomas

Thomas, I think you would need a 25 cm long piece of 30 mm wide ribbon for your 25 year cross according to the Organisationsbuch 1940.

Hi Thomas,

Great to see that Deumer even stamped "19" on the small rings which as you say, were almost definitely made for ribbon bars or mounts as shown in post #61

Stan

Stan, Ron's 25 year cross in #61 is a large ring. I would doubt that the small (19) ring would fit on that ribbon bar hook. If some were intended for medal bars with special hooks, then the rest were most definitely for the ladies' version of the 25 year award which specified 50 cm of the 15 mm wide ribbon which would have fit easily in the smaller (19) marked Deumer ring. And the lighter production weight would have been easier to acomodate on the narrow ladies ribbon if worn around the neck or perhaps fashioned in a brooch style mount for a dress.

[Stan]

Hi Joe.

Yes, Ron's ring in Post #61 is the large size but I was actually referring to the small sized ring in Thomas's post #69.

Stan