SA gorgets

[ivbaust]

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[ivbaust]

Thank you for your opinions and support

[Br. James]

Both gorgets look fine to me...and I am certainly envious of that case, which appears to be in mint condition! I do have a question on your cased gorget: how is the backing adhered to the piece? It looks as though it's glued to the rim. Normally, IMO, the backing is set beneath the rim, which holds it in place.

I had thought that the RZM disc was a feature of the earliest SA Gorgets; it is seldom present on examples that include the full RZM code letters and numbers, yet it is here on a piece which also includes the license code on the tang. Anyone have a comment on this?

Br. James

[ivbaust]

Thank you, Br. James.

Did such RZM stamps exist?

[jules61]

Booth Gorgets are nice originals!
M1/52 it's a typical maker for these Gorget...!
Best!
Gian.

[Br. James]

Yes, as Gian said, M1/52 is a typical manufacturer of gorgets; it's the RZM license number for the firm of Deschler & Sohn of Munich, a prolific jeweler and manufacturer for the NSDAP.

And how about my previous question, Ingo: "how is the backing adhered to the piece? It looks as though it's glued to the rim. Normally, IMO, the backing is set beneath the rim, which holds it in place."

Thanks, as always,

Br. James

[ivbaust]

Thanks for the information. I have no information how the backing is adhered. These gorgets have been sold just a few minutes ago. The cased one was sold for $1100 plus buyer’s premium of 17.5%, thus close to $1300.

[Military]

Would that be a good end-aution price?

Mil

[Br. James]

That seems low to me, Mil; I would have paid at least $200 for that box alone!

Br. James

[Military]

Hello Br James,

I've never collected Gorgets and do not want to start a new collection! But these are beauties, especially the SS ones but its a minefield and not for me for now. I'll still stick to what I prefer.

I haven't been buying anything lately.

Thanks,
Mil

[Erich B.]

Yes, as Gian said, M1/52 is a typical manufacturer of gorgets; it's the RZM license number for the firm of Deschler & Sohn of Munich, a prolific jeweler and manufacturer for the NSDAP.

And how about my previous question, Ingo: "how is the backing adhered to the piece? It looks as though it's glued to the rim. Normally, IMO, the backing is set beneath the rim, which holds it in place."

Thanks, as always,

Br. James

Most SA gorgets have the wool backing glued to the reverse. I know of at least one maker that used a crimped edge to hold the fabric, but most makers' gorgets had a lip that didn't wrap around the edge so couldn't hold the backing.
Erich

[Br. James]

Thanks for that, Erich -- I guess my experience with SA Gorgets is sorely limited! The example in my collection was made by Willy Annetsberger of Munich -- #83 -- and the ones I've noticed in catalogs and online normally have seemed to have the overlapping rim on the reverse like mine does, which appears to be holding the backing material in place. That's why seeing the one in this thread caught my eye originally...because it looked odd to me.

Br. James