2 x Armbands. Help, opinions

[Robbo]

Hi
I wonder if anyone might be able to offer opinions on two armbands?
These two came with a mixed collection of other badges, most of which were British and Commonwealth. All of which are good / original.
There were two other German pieces, a Lappland Shield and an Afrikakorps title, both of which appear to be fine.
I've no experience with these armbands and would be grateful for any advice.
One is made up with a folded ribbon and the other (with the two black ribbons top and bottom is printed.
Robbo

[Wood]

In my opinion,
good, top,
not, bottom.
Pete

[timster]

I agree. First one is no good. Other one looks fine.

[jmcm]

I agree. First one is no good. Other one looks fine.

I agree

[DanCz]

I am of the opinion that the first shown - NSDAP - is a good piece but i have serious doubts as to the authenticity of the second piece - SS

[wahnsinn_opc]

For me ss fake

[Erich B.]

Agree--the multi piece party armband looks fine. The silk screened pseudo SS band is IMO fake.
Erich

[Robbo]

Hi to everyone
Thank you all for your opinions. It's appreciated.
Regarding the printed band, what are the indications of it being a fake ? It would be good to know what to look for in future.
Robbo

[Erich B.]

First, neither the SA nor the SS were permitted to wear silk screened or printed armbands with their uniforms (I assume this regulation also applied to most other NS organizations as well, but I've only researched the SA). Second, the proportions of the armband are not correct.
Erich

[wahnsinn_opc]

first, neither the sa nor the ss were permitted to wear silk screened or printed armbands with their uniforms (i assume this regulation also applied to most other ns organizations as well, but i've only researched the sa). Second, the proportions of the armband are not correct.
Erich

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