Rosenthal Ceramic Color Soldier Plate Value

[wolfslair]

Hello all,
I've got this Rosenthal ceramic piece that I need verified and a possible fair market value. Any help would be greatlt appreciated.
Regards,
Steve

[wolfslair]

size is 215mm

[Erich B.]

$400-450.00 is what I've seen them go for in the past when the market was stronger.
Very nice piece!
Erich

[Quickie]

FYI year of manufacture - 1932

[wolfslair]

Thank you Erich and Quikie.
How can you tell it's made in 1932 ? Just curious.
Regards,
Steve

[Quickie]

Thank you Erich and Quikie.
How can you tell it's made in 1932 ? Just curious.
Regards,
Steve

Easy. By the Rosenthal's logo on the plate, which corresponds to 1932.

[Erich B.]

I believe there is some overlap with Rosenthal markings--I believe, despite what some websites show, that the marking was phased out/replaced in 1934-35 based on pieces that I've seen in the past.
Erich

[wessel]

The soldier's helmet is, however, representative of Imperial/Weimar rather than the Third Reich era.

[Erich B.]

Prior to 1935, though, the WWI helmet pattern was still worn--and also past this date by both military and paramilitary members.
Erich

[Quickie]

The soldier's helmet is, however, representative of Imperial/Weimar rather than the Third Reich era.

That's because the plate was manufactured in exactly 1932.

[Erich B.]

Or before 1934-35 at least.
Erich

[J. Wraith]

Rosenthal changes their marks every year, what appears to be an identical mark in many cases could have minute detail differences. The chances are of a mark from 1932 coming up in 1935 for Rosenthal at least is slim but possible. But not likely here because this is a series done in numbers so you have something like 4 or 5 pieces made and they number ?/500 or ? /1000... That and the fact that they did these in batches your not really going to run the mark out of its designation of 1932. Its made in 1932.

You would need to show a model not done in a previous year with a previous years mark to show otherwise and I wish everyone luck with that. Much easier to find a later mark on an early piece as they kept making them in many cases. Kind of a silly argument considering the piece in question is not even a standard plate and the manufacturer intentionally and methodically amends its mark on a yearly basis.

[Erich B.]

Thanks! If that's the case, then it must be 1932--the placement of dots appears to indicate the yearly changes, at least during the period this marking was used. I apologize for the incorrect information I had provided.
Erich

[J. Wraith]

Thanks! If that's the case, then it must be 1932--the placement of dots appears to indicate the yearly changes, at least during the period this marking was used. I apologize for the incorrect information I had provided.
Erich

Erich,

It is dots and dases in many cases, its good for dating pieces but its also easy to make a mistake dating a piece as well. ;@)