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    #46
    What's Chinese and or Russian for 'pass the Vaseline' ?

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      #47
      Originally posted by Jon Fish View Post
      What's Chinese and or Russian for 'pass the Vaseline' ?
      According to my translator its Gottlube

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        #48
        Originally posted by Tony T-S View Post
        Yes guys, 1.50 RM was cheap, not for the men receiving it of course. I didn't mean it was a throw away party day badge, but an very inexpensive badge, now apparently worth 15000. Of course it's not a cheap award in the eyes of the party, of course. Keep your hats on.

        Presumably, this particular one was owned by AH himself, the box itself must be worth about 7000.
        I guess everything is relative. A new PPK could be bought for RM 35,00 in 1934. But that was more than the weekly wages of a working man. So the RM1,50 was not a pittance. The Gahr silver version of the SS-ZA (SS civil lapel pin) was RM 1,50.

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          #49
          The unfortunate result of this sale will be that every dealer who gets hold of a first pattern Coburg will now want to set their price close to what this brought. I'm sure dealers will now say this is what one of these is worth and will also point out that the case added little value in this transaction.
          Richard V

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            #50
            Originally posted by Richard View Post
            The unfortunate result of this sale will be that every dealer who gets hold of a first pattern Coburg will now want to set their price close to what this brought.
            Well yeah - so what? Nothing wrong with that.

            So now the Schlacht um Coburg is worth 12-15K - that´s great!!

            I don´t have a problem with that.

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              #51
              Originally posted by Richard View Post
              The unfortunate result of this sale will be that every dealer who gets hold of a first pattern Coburg will now want to set their price close to what this brought. I'm sure dealers will now say this is what one of these is worth and will also point out that the case added little value in this transaction.
              Richard V
              Look how much RKs are bringing and there were what, 14000 awarded?

              About 436 1st patterns CBs awarded and in most cases they're priced lower than RKs.

              Someone got a very nice badge regardless of the box.

              With most CBs changing hands between collectors, it's whatever the market will bare regarding price. How many original 1st patterns have hit any of the major dealer sites in the last few years compared to RKs for example? Again, you have to take the box out of the equation and I hope the buyer didn't pay a premium for it.
              Last edited by ErichS; 03-31-2014, 06:05 PM.

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                #52
                Fantastic.

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                  #53
                  Originally posted by ErichS View Post
                  Look how much RKs are bringing and there were what, 14000 awarded?

                  About 436 1st patterns CBs awarded and in most cases they're priced lower than RKs.

                  Someone got a very nice badge regardless of the box.

                  With most CBs changing hands between collectors, it's whatever the market will bare regarding price. How many original 1st patterns have hit any of the major dealer sites in the last few years compared to RKs for example? Again, you have to take the box out of the equation and I hope the buyer didn't pay a premium for it.

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                    #54
                    Originally posted by ErichS View Post
                    Look how much RKs are bringing and there were what, 14000 awarded?

                    About 436 1st patterns CBs awarded and in most cases they're priced lower than RKs.

                    Someone got a very nice badge regardless of the box.

                    With most CBs changing hands between collectors, it's whatever the market will bare regarding price. How many original 1st patterns have hit any of the major dealer sites in the last few years compared to RKs for example? Again, you have to take the box out of the equation and I hope the buyer didn't pay a premium for it.
                    Guy got robbed and paid a huge premium for the box

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                      #55
                      Are there any 1st patterns Coburg Badges available for a better price? I have been offering $10,000.00 with no response. Offer is still good.

                      Bob Hritz
                      In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

                      Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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                        #56
                        Originally posted by Bob Hritz View Post
                        Are there any 1st patterns Coburg Badges available for a better price? I have been offering $10,000.00 with no response. Offer is still good.

                        Bob Hritz
                        Bob, I'm amazed to find there is something you don't have in that fabulous collection of yours!
                        Richard V

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                          #57
                          Originally posted by ErichS View Post
                          Look how much RKs are bringing and there were what, 14000 awarded?

                          About 436 1st patterns CBs awarded and in most cases they're priced lower than RKs.

                          Someone got a very nice badge regardless of the box.

                          With most CBs changing hands between collectors, it's whatever the market will bare regarding price. How many original 1st patterns have hit any of the major dealer sites in the last few years compared to RKs for example? Again, you have to take the box out of the equation and I hope the buyer didn't pay a premium for it.
                          It's all supply and demand Erich. RK's bring the price because of the 14k awarded, less survived and there are many more military badge/medal collectors than there are political. Look at the KC of the KVK. A few years ago these could be found for around $3k even though there were less awarded than even the Coburg badge (though more were probably produced and never awarded). Political stuff is just now beginning to come into its own and we are seeing the price escalation that comes with popularity. I still think this was an extraordinary sum paid for this badge.
                          Richard V

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                            #58
                            And if realities were public you would have a lynch Weitze thread, a price back down to previous sale and a whole lot of people who would see the light and a pissed off buyer. Don't be silly, its Weitze, certainly not market.

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by Richard View Post
                              Bob, I'm amazed to find there is something you don't have in that fabulous collection of yours!
                              Richard V
                              May be.
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                                #60
                                Originally posted by Richard View Post
                                Bob, I'm amazed to find there is something you don't have in that fabulous collection of yours!
                                Richard V
                                I have both the first and second type in my collection. I have been trying to get one for a good friend.

                                Thank you, Chen, for posting my two badges. I am very glad I already have them. With all the talk of the coming crash in prices, it is apparant that quality is not having trouble finding a home for considerable sums.

                                Bob Hritz
                                In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

                                Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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