Help on these AH items

[Antonio Scapini]

Hi guys, I'd like to buy some HA items.
I found a table cloth and a dinner plate marked Allach.
What do you think about? I prefere to be sure, don't want wate my money for nothing...
Thanks for your help!

[Antonio Scapini]

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[Antonio Scapini]

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[Antonio Scapini]

The Allach plate

[Antonio Scapini]

Last...

[ErichS]

The plate is a fake.

[Antonio Scapini]

Thanks Erich, I suspected...

Noe remains the table cloth...

[wewelsburg]

I dont like teh napkin... the eagle is situated on top of the design?Its not incorporated in a proper place,just plopped on willy nilly,and it looks weird.There are a few good ones for sale on the estand still I believe buy one there.

[Jon. H]

The plate is a fake.

Yep, they showed up in the early 70s if i'm not mistaken. Sadly they're often offered as good.

[Br. James]

I agree with all three previous responses, sorry to say. The monogram on the table cloth is not only completely independent of the cloth's design but also appears to be machine-stitched. As far as I know, the monograms on such Hitler cloth pieces were all hand-embroidered, and always with a sense of the overall style and look of the piece. The monogram on the plate is startling, to say the least! I have never seen an AH eagle stylized in such an over-the-top manner! I am not an expert on Allach products, so I'll leave it to those who are to discuss this piece further. But the monogram itself screams "fake" to me.

AH personal items, as well as those supposedly belonging to any other famous person, including the Nazi heirarchy, depend upon two elements: provenance and the dealer's reputation and return policy. Anyone can claim anything about a piece, but the question is always "How do you back that claim up?"

Hope this is helpful,

Br. James

[tystgaard]

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I would pass on these, or they needed to be priced very low. But I know some would regard the allach as original, and sometime seen on sale. After been aware of some problems with these Allach AH items... I think it is most likely they are fake.

Nicolai

[Shawn Bern]

Plate

Plate is widely regarded as fakes in the collecting community, I have seen them many times, For those interested, please follow the below link, Both the eagle and Allach markings are yuck.....

http://www.thirdreicharts.com/data/i...ler+Dinnerware

[Arran]

Yes, I got saddled with an expresso cup and saucer...now I use them daily for all they're good for!