"Mahnmal" monument centerpiece

[ErichS]

Now if I can just find a period model of an Ehrentempel!

[Military]

Gentlemen,

in your opinion how would you rate the rarity / scarcity of these Mahnhal ornaments as compared to the Nuremberg / Nuremburg desk eagles? Arent these eagle ornaments equally rare or does the Mahnmal piece far exceeds it in terms of rarity?

Your learned opinions please.
thank you.

[Erich B.]

The Nürnberg eagles are far less rare than the Mahnmal statues. Although original eagles are not common, the Mahnmals appear to be virtually non existent on the market.
Erich

[Military]

Erich,

the search goes on.

[Panzer Rob]

Can anyone here give an estimate on what these statues tend to sell for when they actually trade hands? I'm guessing that these sell from collector to collector, "behind the scenes" so to speak and never even come close to hitting the open market...

Are we talking $3,000? $5,000? $10,000? More?


After seeing Erich's, I may start hunting for one myself


Thanks in advance,
Rob

[Panzer Rob]

Yes indeed hard to find. I'm searching as well if one turns up,eyes peeled

Oh man, never mind... I can't compete with the Fishmann's wallet

Rob

[Federico Perez]

Now if I can just find a period model of an Ehrentempel!

Ah, Troost honor temples...I have a story about a "scale model" of this building. about 10 years ago I was comisioned to do a 1/35 scale model of one of them...with the coffins!! I got original blueprints copys from the person who ask me to build it, black and white photos from every angle of the building and it's detail taken by the architect Troost atelier at the time of dedication I presume...exept the coffins, there are no detail picture of all of them or blueprints, I had to use photos from angles and oficial funtions during the period. In the cache of photos where about 4 of a scale model of the honor temple...in color and "modern" photo paper, as it turn out the original Troost atelier architectural model still exist in Germany as well as several of the new Reichschancellery by Albert Speer, like the honor curtyard entrance,street formal entrance and backyard Hitler office elevation...the one with the two horses in each side of the stairs. This are in storage and under lock and key in one of Germany archives BUT at least still exist!!!!!

I was told....well "ordered" not to make copys of the plans or photos and I could not take or use photos of MY MODEL IN ANY WAY for my portfollio...but since I was paid quite well I dind't mind at all Every once in a while I wonder what happened to that model of mine or where it is, I know the original owner sold it about 4 years ago.

Now, Erich if you could get that original achitectural model of the honor temple by Troost Atelier THAT would be one of the ultimate Third Reich art collectables......hey one can dream

[Robin Lumsden]

Can anyone here give an estimate on what these statues tend to sell for when they actually trade hands?

I think it's a case of being in the right place at the right time.

A few years ago, I saw someone at a UK military fair walk away with one of these for £45.

[Jon Fish]

Rob I would loose a '0' on those figures. I would say 250-500 more the rate. Like Robin said 45 is not out of the question on a good day.These type of items have no set value like a medal IMO,up to how bad someone wants one.

[Erich B.]

If you're patient and lucky, you might find a bargain--Jon, you mean GBP and not $, correct? If so, that sounds about right. I paid around $350, if memory serves, for mine, but that was in the 80s, the long-time collector knew what it was and how scarce (and that I'd likely be sorry if I didn't buy it). So I did. Part of the problem, as opposed to other statuary and busts, is that it's quite fragile and the base is heavy. If it is dropped or even knocked over on a desk or table, the eagle and/or plaque is likely to break. So I suspect the survival rate is lower than that of more robust pieces.
Erich

[ErichS]

I paid a lot more than 350.00 but as stated you would be hard pressed to find another. The cool thing about the statute is that it's so very close to the original. The artist did a great job with the script used for the Martyrs names for example. You may get lucky and find one cheap but you may pay more like me if one becomes available. Best, Erich

[dutch]

Front and backside of the original Mahnmal

Dutch

[SSgentleman]

I had been looking for ages, tough to acquire...
Mil you sure have a wide range of collecting interest, very fine taste

Dear Gentlemen,

Im looking for the Mahnmal desk ornament. If you have or know one available, please PM me.

I have been looking for one for a very long time.
Please let me know.

many thanks and sincerely,
Mil

[Erich B.]

Now if I can just find a period model of an Ehrentempel!

As a matter of fact, in going through a large cache of period photos, I found these. I assume they are someone's school or master's project rather than original architectural models, but whatever they are, they're super!
Erich

[Erich B.]

One more.
Erich