NSDAP wool armband opinion

[Volksturmer]

Jeff,
thank you so much for that information, extremely interesting and informative.
There is no point in just wondering about the things that puzzle us - always ask the experts!
John

[carlhungus]

One side is longer than the other. I suspect this may be why STLMatt believes it to have been cut. And he just might be right.

Alen Davidson

Looks like this impression is made by the previous pictures . After measurement, armband is about 48cm, and Swastika is almost perfectly centered.
Nevertheless, hard to say if it has been cut.

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[Christian76]

It has never been cut.

[hs132]

Hello, you have a very nice armband. Here are two of mine that came from the same late Vet. Estate many years ago. It’s the same maker and darn close in the numbers. They and yours are top quality workmanship. Best, Bill Bourque

[Jeff Clark]

Thanks guys,
I read somewhere (but where?) that blue ink labels are for SA. True ?

No

[carlhungus]

Hello, you have a very nice armband. Here are two of mine that came from the same late Vet. Estate many years ago. It’s the same maker and darn close in the numbers. They and yours are top quality workmanship. Best, Bill Bourque

Hi Bill,
Nice armbands also . You're right, pretty close.
found another one from same manufacturer sold here:
https://www.ulricofengland.com/index...112v9v5qlga126

That's here where I read about the blue ink SA also.

[Jeff Clark]

That's here where I read about the blue ink SA also.
https://www.ulricofengland.com/index...112v9v5qlga126

well that explains it. and look at the used armband which was sewn on a tunic at one time, yet the paper RZM tag appears almost brand new. doesn't that raise any red flags?

[carlhungus]

well that explains it. and look at the used armband which was sewn on a tunic at one time, yet the paper RZM tag appears almost brand new. doesn't that raise any red flags?

Maybe an orange flag
Condition of the armband seems good (despite bad pictures). Isn't it possible that a sewn armand not used too long can keep an rzm label in decent state ?
Armband looks like the one I present (and also the 2 others from Bill), same manufacturer.

On Ulric's item, do you suggest genuine rzm label was added after, or a fake one ?

[Jeff Clark]

I don't think that RZM tag is original to that armband, based on the condition of each

[Volksturmer]

This has turned out to be a very interesting and informative thread. My arm band, wool, same construction style, has some different markings than these. A, not J. Also, it looks like someone has written 1.10 in ink on the RZM tag, maybe the price?
But the construction looks very similar. It’s not in great shape, not one for display, I bought it with 3 others in a vet lot.
Mine could be the wrong RZM tag?

[carlhungus]

If you have the A just before the 6 digits number, it's a sequential letter. So no problem to find a A at this place.
a photo of the tag could help for sure

[kyles bullets]

Condition of the armband seems good (despite bad pictures). Isn't it possible that a sewn armand not used too long can keep an rzm label in decent state ?

This is possible although isn't very common. All depends how the insignia was attached during the period and if it kept the tag protected

[carlhungus]

I don't think that RZM tag is original to that armband, based on the condition of each

Hi,
Looks like a similar situation here ?
Rzm tag seems very fresh also...

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https://gielsmilitaria.com/index.php...oduct_id=10219

[Jeff Clark]

Hi,
Looks like a similar situation here ?
Rzm tag seems very fresh also...

That is always something you want to look at, especially with an armband like that which was obviously sewn on at one point.

[ivbaust]

... Isn't it possible that a sewn armand not used too long can keep an rzm label in decent state ? ...

First of all. Interesting thread. Thank you

You raise a good question and maybe that’s of interest to you and others ... the below armband was part of a NSKK grouping, which was found recently during a house demolition in Germany. 100% original and untouched since it was hidden under the deal boards in the house somewhen before May 1945. Here’s the link to the thread, where additional pictures and information can be seen.

https://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/for...use-demolition

Unfortunately bugs and moths had their fun with most of the cloth items, including this armband. But interesting to see the condition of the armband vs. the RZM label on the inside.